happens next? jessica: she does feel like she has gotten a win. kennedy: at what cost, though? jessica: at what cost customer use of uptick on who is blaming presidents. they need to be cautious about that. i would say that the president took the temperature of what was going on. there were republican congressmen jockeying to have the state of the unit in their home districts, saying i will give you the superdome. because the saints got robbed. that s clearly inappropriate. it was also fundamental in paris to have a seat of the union with hundred thousand federal workers not being paid. kennedy: then why have they come up with a counterproposal? jessica: like i said relief started, i m hopeful that the bill jim clyburn was talking about would be the solution there. and we got some smart technology. that we are doing the same thing as israel is doing, our greatest ally in the middle east. he gets a talking point in there as well. and we can move forward. all of the conversat
testify, then how might congress react and would the congress have any sort of remedy here? not a remedy for the threat right now. that may be a component of mr. mueller. i don t think that tweet leads to any criminal liability. congress has two choices. they cannot do anything because there was a voluntary appearance or they could subpoena mr. cohen, again, going back to your initial point, even if they subpoena him, there s no revelations there. it s anecdotal at best. mildly interesting and humorous anecdotes but not significant. shepard: they couldn t subpoena him to give temperature on the subject at hand, on the facts of the matter because they might be an interference with the mueller investigation? they could. but they defer mr. mueller not have a witness testify about things that mr. mueller may want him to testify at trial some day. you wonder if michael cohen is he might be on a witness
joining me now is msnbc contributor and professor at the university of texas at austin, victoria. it s nice to see you. welcome back to the broadcast. victoria. my first question to you, you have more than 50,000 of these children crossing the border into the u.s. since october. first of all, what s going to happen to them? alex, regretly for the short term, we don t know. in order to determine what s going to happen with these kids, we need to put them through immigration hearings. the sense is the bulk of these kids will be repatriated. another portion will stay in asylum in the united states. but i come back to my initial point, they re in limbo. we don t know because of the bureaucratic morass we re in. it points out the need for comprehensive immigration reform. we need to fix this system from head to toe. in addition, they may be here for some time, correct? because the courts are overwhelmed. the services, the president, as