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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20210619:08:24:00

type of selfish type of what can you do for me type of mentality. manipulative. manipulator, self-centered, and arrogant. maybe that s why derek never shied away from talking with the cops and why he never asked for a lawyer, or maybe he just wasn t guilty. definitely he thought he was smarter than we were, anyways. i mean, you know, what did we have. when derek was briefly arrested, detectives asked him who he was with at anderson park on the day crystal was murdered. remember, detective williams thought later it was probably c-styles, but cops had no way to prove it. and then under questioning, derek gave them one. he said he goes, i saw a woman in the back seat.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20210619:08:13:00

before he answered it, he would give a preamble as to why his answer was this. lopez pushed him. told derek that c-styles had confessed and implicated derek. derek denied everything. lopez thought he was lying. but what he was not doing was cracking. i said, you know, you re not a likeable person. i don t know if anybody s going to believe you. and he just didn t seem to mind. of course, it s possible derek wasn t worried because he wasn t guilty. during those ten years from 2001 to 2011, what s derek doing and how is he? does he seem like a guy with a cloud over his head? no. he seems like a man who s flourishing. derek s sister danielle was shocked by the arrest. she says the way she and derek grew up was a world away from people like c-styles and from crimes like murder. we played, we were into sports, we had two extremely active parents that were a part

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20210619:08:35:00

was shot? absolutely. the defense suggested javonte s father killed crystal. never mind that police had cleared him early on. derek s lawyer told the jury his client was an innocent man. but this tragedy, it will be compounded if you convict a person that is not involved. and i m asking for a not guilty verdict on all counts. thank you very much. crystal s family was worried. they could only hope the jury believed c-styles video confession and not his recantation of it. the wait for a verdict was agonizing. that was painful. one day passed. then two. three days in. i m nervous. i don t want to do this again. i can t do this again. it s not easy. then it was a week. then one week turned into two. i m like i m just praying. i just keep praying, no matter

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20210619:08:36:00

what i see or what i hear. i keep praying. every day the waiting was harder. that was true for derek s family too. i started getting nervous. i was there every day, anxiously waiting so that we could hear that verdict. so we could hear that derek was not guilty. i would see the jurors come out of there, red in the face. almost like they re arguing back there. like they d been yelling. like they d been yelling. we re on the record in people v. smyer. after 21 days, the jury reassembled in the courtroom. the jury has not been able to reach a verdict. they were stuck. i do declare a mistrial. this is breaking me. hopefully by the time it s time to do it again, i ll pull it back together. but today i don t want to do it again. coming up, trial number two. this time, new evidence. and a new witness.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20210619:08:23:00

and one thing he is he is a manipulator of women. cops saw a pattern, one that was reinforced by something else they learned. as the investigation continued, we discovered that derek had been to prison for a federal offense of he was um, scamming money from a bank. it happened in 2004. here s derek in this fuzzy bank security photo stealing money from other people s bank accounts. turned out he had a girlfriend who worked at a credit union. he got account numbers from her and used them to move money into accounts he controlled. what happened to the $80,000 that they skimmed? the investigators, they didn t find it. and we tried to look for it, too, and we never found it. you heard about derek serving federal time on that bank charge. yes, yes. i wasn t surprised. and i wasn t surprised at who he used as an accomplice. his girlfriend. yes. why were you not surprised by that? because derek possesses that

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