before the 6th. pence pushing back every time. was it your impression that the vice president had directly conveyed his position on these issues to the president, not just to the world through a dear colleague letter, but directly to president trump? many times. and he had been consistent in conveying his position to the president? very consistent. and then the new memos show ing pence s legal and political advisers spending weeks whether pence could block or delay the electoral vote count. their conclusion doing that would break multiple laws. the author of that second memo, former counsel to the vice president, greg jacob, will testify today. so will federal judge jay michael ludig, who rejected a theory by trump adviser john sman that pence could unilaterally reject lectors. and if he tried any way, the new york times reports that emails from eastman predicted a heated fight in the supreme court. much more on that, and the connection to justice thomas wife