has to do with just what we get day-to-day through popular media. meaning, in other words, to what at what information thresholds is the government a reliable source of information and what information threshold is the mass media a reliable source of information? yes. and reconciling mass media information, government information, with what people deem to be actual factual information? absolutely. yes. because, particularly, in the field of ufology, the study of ufos, you re always dealing with information that s been circulated through the mass media. there s a lot of editing, there s a lot of censoring that goes on, and there s a lot of spin there. one way and the other. so it leaves you, as an observer, as a researcher, in a sort of state of bewilderment. got it. and i ll save the killington visit for last. this is dousing, which is the use of a stick to magically find water or other objects. yes. of all of the things that