he s saying, look, i still think you need to explore this section or that section. the point is that anyone familiar with affidavits knows that you can release parts of an affidavit without compromising an investigation or confidential informants base that s how affidavits are written. there s legal sections, there s factual sections that are already known to the target. so many of us said all along and the judge agreed with this that parts of this after davis could be released. neil: so it seems like a broad range of issues that would prevent a lot of this from ever coming out at all. forget about the information of people that haven t been charged and those that might have been there. any sense of identifying them. it goes on to include the information strategy, direction, scope, sources and methods. any grand jury information.
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threat is even more imminent. given the fact you just said you ve spoken recently with both presidents, biden and zelensky, what was the takeaway, what was the tone, what did you get from those conversations? well, let me be clear. i spoke to president zelensky last summer when i hosted him here at stanford. and i ve seen him speak. you asked about shouting. he doesn t seem like a guy that would shout. i think he s frustrated. he s in a horrible position. let s all remember how horrible this is. his country is on the verge of being invaded. he knows that they don t have the capabilities to fight an air war especially against russian planes and russian rockets. and he s been told by other countries that we re not going to defend him. so, we should have some sympathy for how difficult his situation is right now. yeah, it s a tightrope he s walking, that s for sure. melinda, what s your assessment of the effectiveness of the white house information strategy, the efficacy of that?