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eric: a republican here and the member of the house oversight and government reform committee is here from florida. congressman, good morning. good to be with you. eric: what do you think this new information mean, according to the testimony that the office of chief counsel, apparently was involved? well, cart or hall, again, located in washington, would normally handle some of these. he had more than four decades of experience. he testified that again, miss lerner s office was involved. and there was a specific link to the chief counsel, counsel wilkins. he s one of two political appointees bithe president to the irs. you know, lerner tried to choreograph a scenario, before the report by the inspector general came out that this was just rogue employees in cincinnati.