while. yeah. well, that speaks to, again, how the world has evolved. we talk about the dark and light parts of a connected and internet enabled world, but as you say, that may puncture some of the propaganda. on the other hand there s extensive reporting, front page of the times today about people in russia not believing their own family members in ukraine because unlike some of the folks that you cited they are just relying on state media. they don t believe and understand the reality. that dwoez to the information bubble that putin may be also operating in, reading are from a washington post report about the type of intelligence you used to consume in government, it says analysts see putin as isolated, underestimated the west but could still lash out if cornered. he appears relying on a small code yay of advisers who have not told him the truth about how costly conquering ukraine is turning out to be. your thought on that assessment. does it differ from what you were operating on
and please stay safe. we wish you the best. we want to turn now to russia. the united states, canada, and eu nations announcing select russian banks will in fact officially be expelled from s.w.i.f.t. saying in a joint statement that the move is designed to ensure that putin s war on ukraine is, quote, a strategic failure. nbc s raphe sanchez is in moscow for us. raphe, it is good to talk to you once again. listen, putin has made sure that the russian public is in an information bubble regarding ukraine, shutting down social media left and right, making sure they only see what the russian government wants them to see on russian television. but he cannot hide what is about to happen when it comes to the russian economy. when it comes to the bank accounts of russian people. what are we hearing on the ground there so far, how russians, in fact, are reacting? people here are really afraid about what the next couple of
this. so how much do they know? how much support do they give vladimir putin? it s unfortunate. i don t have friends lift in russia. people that march with me on the russian streets peaceful protesting putin, they re in jail or killed. so we can get some information out of the situation on the ground but its dire. putin closed almost every hole that could be used to bring true picture of what is happening in ukraine. now by new laws by parliament in russia, if you protest the war, you go to jail. if you re trying to tell the truth, you can earn 50 years behind bars. so russia is closed in the information bubble. there s rumors and i take them
i think that s been a problem with putin for some time. he s been in an information bubble and the information that he does receive i would guess is pretty filtered. he s not getting a lot of bad news and in this situation, that s particularly critical. so i think president zelenskyy s got a point. i think so, too. what would it take for that bubble to burst? is there anyone in putin s inner circle who can actually get through to him with some serious, realistic information? well, i doubt it. i think the government people that are in positions of influence are in part of his inner circle, the national security adviser minister of defense. they re long time cronies of putin and i think it s very unlikely that at this point
censorship in russia? i think we have consistently seen throughout putin s tenure this slow move to create more censorship. i would say i m not surprised at this current moment given the way things have been going the last two weeks. i have been shocked and surprised things have gone this far. that putin has invaded ukraine. i think so many people never thought it would get to this point. now i fear this is just the beginning of even more draconian measures happening inside of russia. what putin is trying to do is essentially take all of the oxygen out of the room and choke out the information from russia so people are living within this information bubble. we have seen miami heat shut down websites and twitter and facebook. people are doing what they can to communicate.