Host our guest, larry elder. Radio talk show host, columnist. The firms are up on the the numbers are up on the screen. Were talking about his most recent book which is a memoir. Mr. Elder writes a lot about politics as people who follow him know. If youd like to dial in and talk about that as well, 2025853885 in the east and central time zones, 5853886 if youre in the mountain or pacific time zone where we are right now on the campus of usc. Mr. Elder, chapter two, if norl was hate. My hatred for my father was not the kind where you get a spanking, seethe for a bit and things go pack to number go back the number because you realize he punishes you because he loves you. Norm was intimidation. Normal was tense. Normal was wondering if you would Say Something that could set him off. Normal was hate. Yeah. When people look at me and im smiling, they often wonder why is it that im so sort of nonchalant about it. Im writing that from the perspective of a child, andering seems romantic, ever