extraordinary job of explaining abraham lincoln, and his great, great opening to this extraordinary book by jon meacham. douglass said viewed from the genuine abolition ground, mr. lincoln seemed tardy, cold, dug, and indifferent. but measuring him by the sentiment of his country, a sentiment he was bound as a statesman to consult, he was swift, zealous, radical, and determined. and this conversation we re having, what jon just said is not a theoretical one anymore. we re living through it as we speak. the new book is entitled, and there was light, abraham lincoln and the american struggle. jon will be back one more day. the book is so good, i m going to suggest an oil painting on the campus of vanderbilt
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there are a lot of independents and moderate republicans that reject these policies. we certainly saw that in kansas. so republicans, i think, will be more cautious. there is no talk in florida of making the laws more restrictive. i think republicans understand that there could be some serious political peril and republicans at the national level are already seeing that in polling and indifferent with election results. we will see. but i think in texas there will be a backlash. i think a lot of republican governors and legislators are going to start taking a couple steps backwards on this issue. adrian, carlos, thank you both for being with us. coming up, the attacks on the mccain family and close to decertify presidential elections. arizona s race for governor is looking a lot like 2020. by next mike next guests will have a plan will be right back. hey, there tonight at nine
spare. i have seen a lot larger majorities struggle to do things half as ambitious as this. and i m not talking about what whether what s in the big is good, bad or indifferent. that s for voters to decide. and for partisans to decide. but the scope of this bill is huge and the margins in both chambers are narrow. so just given that basic fact, it s a huge victory for pelosi and schumer and for joe biden, just because he s going to be able to sign this into law. they are executing on his vision, a vision he laid out in the 2020 campaign. the larger question is how does this play in front of an electorate that s tired of covid, facing rising food prices, rising gas prices for the last couple months, although they are falling now. this is going to take awhile for people to feel, does this give voters confidence that democrats should still be in charge of the
assault weapon. president biden is praising the new gun bill framework. in a statement released by the white house yesterday, the president writes, in part, obviously, it does not do everything i think is needed, but reflects important steps in the right direction and would be the most significant gun safety legislation to pass congress in decades. each day that passes, more children are killed in this country. the sooner it comes to my desk, the sooner i can sign it, the sooner we can use these measures to save lives. and it is progress. slow progress but progress. i m sure you know, abraham lincoln was often criticized for moving too slowly toward ending slavery. abolitionists like frederick douglass noted the view from the abolition ground, mr. lincoln seemed tardy, cold, dull, and indifferent. but lincoln was an