i doubt it. chuck, i also want to say, what tim said, now representing bernie caric, when he told us this past hour about rudy giuliani and sidney powell and what the lawyer told me to dork the lawyer told me to do it, let s watch. based on my representation of multiple people, and not just the president but also bernie caric, i will say that sidney powell is one of those lawyers that everything i ve seen, she was putting out theories that she didn t have any backup for, and that was actually one of the things that, you know, this indictment makes it seem like rudy giuliani and sidney powell were shoulder to shoulder. everything i ve seen is actually quite the opposite. we ve seen some of these players first of all, beginning to separate, and is the lawyer made me do it, you know, is that a risky defense, because it
phone call that donald trump and mark meadows made to the secretary of state here in georgia, which has been kind of reduced on air so many times about finding the 11,000 plus votes needed to win in the state, there is every conspiracy under the sun presented at that time more than two years ago, looking for something that would provide exactly what donald trump describes in that truth social post, evidence that would exonerate him, and at no point in the intervening years has that evidence been produced and i don t anticipate it will be produced on monday. what he s going to present on monday is a huge question mark, but it will not be what he says it is, it simply doesn t exist. garrett haake, thank you very much. let s talk about the scope of this indictment. i mean 19 people in total. multiple different counts. it goes through emails and text messages, and phone calls, and tweets, things that taken individually don t look like criminal problems but taken as a whole, the prosecu
that makes the timing very different. but if you are the police, if you are the court deputies, if you have the chief judge here, you re going to try to minimize the exposure of risk or harm to any of the people in light of something like donald trump showing up here. but if you don t show up, then we are going to make sure this is clear. there are already arrest warrants that have been issued for all 19 of these co-defendants, including donald trump, and if they don t show up, they can be considered fugitives from the law, and they could be arrested and held until they have been brought in front of a judge to address their bond status and explain why they didn t show up. although there is a lot of peril at hands for these defendants and ignore the fact that they re facing an indictment in fulton county right now. fascinating. thank you so much katie phang, and chuck rosenberg and andrew weissmann. and moments ago, president biden announced that he and first lady jill biden are goi
chuck rosenberg, power panel, and i will start with you if i can. when i read this social media post by donald trump, he promised a large complex and detailed report by monday, to refute this indictment. is it bound with footnotes and where you could go, i wonder, is his team now scrambling to come up with the report? what do we know about it? very little. i mean look, tolkien wrote large complex and detailed volumes too and they were fiction and i can t imagine anything in this report would be anything other than that and the facts that donald trump wants here just don t exist, there were dead people in florida, or georgia, or florida for that matter, voting in the numbers that he would need to make this work, there were young people that weren t out of state people, and there weren t ballots stuffed in machines, i mean if you go back and listen to the hour-long
wasn t successful. essentially no harm no foul. that s not true in and of itself but when you consider the cases of ruby freeman and shaye moss, it becomes even further more a falsehood because these people had their lives ruined. these people cannot live as normal human beings anymore primarily because someone was furthering this conspiracy, which is why it is such a big deal. then when you look at the indictment, when you go into the details as to what they were asked to do, these people were asked to lie about the fact they did not do something proper with regard to the election. this is mind blowing given the fact that you had the most powerful people in the country preying among the most vulnerable. so i commend fani willis for this count. it s not gotten a ton of attention given the very explosive nature of the overall indictment, but it s going to separate what she s doing in fulton county from what s