get that narrative out there. of coarurse they are watching tt unfold. the big question is whether or not there is potentially indictment fatigue. that is something when i talked to an ally moments ago, they said we re just not sure. while this gives them a boost in polls, whim le this has given tm a boost, this is a third indictment of a former president who is currently running for president. this is completely unprecedented and they just don t know how this is going to play out. and one thing as we look at the calendar here, there s been a lot of conversation over this past hour we ve been having, kristen, about when this may come to trial, right? whether we will get a real verdict for the american people before the election. we know trump is expected in court thursday at 4:30 p.m. what do you know about that? well, there s still questions as to whether or not he s going to show up at court. we know there was some
for him on the a soap box in the street. it s not going to apply to him as a lawyer as an officer of the court. yeah, that s important. alyssa, this all comes as trump, as we all know, he could potentially be indicted in the special counsel s probe any day now. how concerned are you that trump s campaign seems to actually benefit from these indictments? well, listen, there s kind of mixed data on it because there s been some polling that shows that the last indictment did breakthrough with some voters and gave them some pause. listen, donald trump is a master of kind of framing something negative to make it this is an attack on me and therefore an attack on you to his die hard supporters. but you have to imagine there s going to be some indictment fatigue. we re talking about potential third, possibly a fourth. this is a make or break moment for anyone in the gop field who actually wants to have a shot at taking on donald trump. that will be the tell. if they don t go after him aft
someone else but us for these charges, there is a sense of exhaustion and trump petit, but there is also a worry among some republicans who want to go a different direction that there could be indictment fatigue. there are so many court cases and venues from new york to florida to possibly washington and georgia. will that also cause exhaustion? republican voters are split just like their party is. thank you so much. joining us now to discuss former white house deputy press secretary during the trip administration, sarah matthews at victoria nurse who served as chief counsel for then vice president joe biden. you were when of the witnesses who testified before the house january 6 select committee, so you are aware of trumps actions around the capital attack. are you surprised to hear that the special counsel s case against trump seems to be larger involving more evidence and more witnesses then trumps
momentum for both christie and hutchinson. what you may see are some pretty major donors, sick and tired of trump, that do not like trump, do not like what he stands for so looking at chris christie or asa hutchinson for some sort of alternative and they want to boost them because they agree with their message so you would see a bump in their fund raising totals, neil, but you would see it mainly from a large donor. much like when you say desantis come out and he had initially raised that $8 million. five of it was given from ken griffin, who is a major, major donor. neil: now, i imagine if you re a major donor and if you re one of the prominent candidates, obviously, desantis is the second most so, but a distant second i should point out, you want to be careful how far you go. you hope that donald trump implodes, right, that he either can t run or that there gets to be indictment fatigue,
they re making the same calculation that we ve seen trump s rivals make all the way back to 2016. somehow, eventually, his supporters will reach a breaking point and move away from him toward me. but i don t want my fingerprints on it. i don t want to do anything that he can point to, or that could potentially alienate those voters. and conceivably, if there are in fact four indictments, you could get to a certain level of what some would describe to me as indictment fatigue among more republican voters than expressing it today. this is an enormous gamble. they are not even making i mean, they are echoing trump s fundamental argument that he is the victim of a with thatized deep state assault. and if you believe that as a republican voter, you know, trump himself, in that sound bite you played. i really noted that. they can t be rewarded. it is easy for trump to make the