not that they terminate investigations. mika, it s important to remember that rudy giuliani back in the 1990s, he was into the investigation of bill clinton and it was perfectly fine that ken starr conducted an investigation and went on years and years through one election after another after another. robert mueller is not going to be indicting anybody right before an election and that will be consistent with guidelines. but you have, if you re in pursuit of a couple of dozen russians who you have evidence that violated american democracy and tried to undermine american democracy, you don t end that investigation because rudy giuliani tells you to end that investigation. in fact, you need guidance from rudy giuliani and go back on just about every topic and see what he said when republicans were indicting or trying to
were never talking to any russians. nobody related to this campaign ever talked to any russians. we were talking to americans. just as extraordinary lie when you look at the collection of russians that they were talking to throughout 2016. i feel like sometimes people don t quite, it s not presented comprehensively in front of people and people don t grasp how much robert mueller and his team and sometimes we re jaded about it. for instance f , if we just fou out today there was a meeting in trump tower, we would think it is a political crisis but now it s. the issue and i think we have to bring this in here because it s a prong of this, it is not just the media pressure and it s not rudy giuliani going out there, there is intense capitol hill pressure, too.
collusion, he pivoted today, maybe it is a quince against it is the same day as the trial no, longer is he saying there was no collusion. now he s saying collusion isn t a crime. now does this fit into russian influence over the trump campaign? this case i think is the preamble to russian collusion. this is setting the scene for manafort s past dealings and past crimes. some of it may well sbleek his time with trump. it will clearly set the stage. and we ve seen mueller stage other cases this way. indicting russians in hacking. and we see the possibility that there may be americans who were involved. now we are learning more of
management of the mueller investigation, of him coming out here, the deputy ag, attaching his name and face to this announcement, indicting russians for election interference. is there significance in that? i think there s a tremendous amount of significance in that, jim. what we saw today is an indictment unprecedented in american history. this is a clear statement that america s main foreign adversary meddled in the heart of the democratic process extensively and expansively. that s the message that the government needs to be taking and engage on this issue.