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poisoning. cleaned out the bank account. are you trying to accuse me of something? a brother determined to find a killer. how dare anybody do that to my little brother? it wasn t supposed to happen like this. a toxic mystery and an emotional trial. is the jury being out long a bad thing or a good thing? it was a mystery from day one. from that time, right around the end of the hockey season. it made sense of what was happening to matthew podolak, matt the hockey amateur, matt the hunter, the fisherman, the athlete. it would make sense from the very first day that matthew podolak woke up with the pain in his back. and after what happened in the hospital a couple of months later, nothing made sense after that. [noise] god knows there were accusations. well yes, plenty of those. and a brother, mark, from whom the stories, the mystery became a kind of obsession. it s had quite an effect on me over the past seven years. the story of what happened to matt

Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240707

poisoning. cleaned out the bank account. are you trying to accuse me of something? have a brother determined to find a killer. how dare anybody do that to my little brother? it wasn t supposed to happen like this. a toxic mystery and an emotional trial. is the jury being out long a bad thing or a good thing? it was a mystery from day one. from that time, right around the end of the hockey season. it made sense of what was happening to matthew podolak, met the hockey amateur, met the hunter, the fish are, the athlete. it would make sense from the very first day that matthew podolak woke up with the pain in his back. and after what happened in the hospital a couple of months later, nothing made sense after that. [noise] the, god knows there were accusations. well yes, plenty of those. and a brother, mark, from whom the stories, the mystery became a kind of obsession. it s had quite an effect on me over the past seven years. the story of what happened to matt

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:05:00

and she couldn t hear because the faucets running. and here s matt, down on his knee, like hello! and then she realized, oh my gosh, you re proposing. that is a kind of romantic little setup. i thought so. the bubbles. i thought that was pretty romantic. after samantha came along, matt and holly, now engaged, went to vegas to witness a friend s wedding, lynn kuriko. did you also make a force wedding? yes, actually. yes holly and matt said we should do a double wedding. but holly knew that her family would not be happy with that so i think that that s what made them not get married. didn t get married. but something happened in vegas. nine months after that, josh was born. from what holly has told me, josh was planned in vegas. ready or not, matt was not the father of samantha. and the baby boy he nicknamed,

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:14:00

how much time would it take for the crystals to deposit themselves into the blood vessels of the heart? it takes weeks, at least. the fact that crystals were forming in his heart and had traveled to his brain indicated long term exposure and not a one-dose kill. and matt s friends and were colleagues testified. they had seen his body disintegrate before their eyes, starting weeks, if not months before his dad. he began sweating profusely and he complained of back pain. he was sitting beside me and practically was hunched over to where his chest was on his knees. who could ve made that happen and how? investigators, remember, they had found antifreeze in halle and matt s garage. immediately, a year after holly moved out. prosecutors knew that they

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:37:00

in holly and matt s house after she moved out? this is a blow bottle of pink antifreeze and cool in. the prosecution showed them off like a crown jewel. all the while knowing that they had no known connections to anything or anyone did the fence was on that like a terrier on the bone. no fingerprints on the bottle, no indication it was even the same kind that killed max. no indication that it was in her house when she actually lives there. those two bottles of antifreeze are not linked to know. and those two bottles of antifreeze or not linked to holly at all. no. what was the point of that? exactly. there wasn t any. with the employing a connection? they were grasping! another very weakness of defense said was the prosecutions worry that holly

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