he was the one who came out and said flatten the curve, and that flattening the curve kept going on and on and on. now, when it comes to schools, he s not telling a fib here. in july of 2020, i interviewed him and he said we have to get the schools open by the fall, but note he had already set a policy of lockdowns and closures that were extended to the schools. so the issue of collateral damage, mental health effects, socialization, nutrition, eye care, the mask overuse, the issue of not being with your peers that we were so worried about was extended and he talked about it in july 2020, but i think the horses were already out of the barn. we saw from other parts of the world that you could leave schools open and the spread did not increase. john: to that point, dr. siegel, it s one thing to say we want the schools to open, but it s another to set conditions or be among the people setting conditions that make it impossible for those schools to open. and at the same time, t
misleading congress and the american people about gain-of-function research. it has been largely unaccountable despite his bureaucratic power and it s called dangerous. what s dangerous is suggesting that american citizens don t have a right to criticize powerful government officials. target them and punish them. the thinking is advertisers should leave twitter because musk dared to criticize fauci. it s absurd. trace: talk about the covid response and as nonpartisan guy, he s a doctor giving when he thought was the best advice and they shut him down. and then the left went after him. your final thoughts. the next batch is i hope will be including the covid files which are the efforts by these agencies, including fauci s agency, to suppress information and criticism of their code
same time, catholic schools were reopening to in-person learning but nobody at the white house, including fauci, said here is a model we can follow, they all capitulated to the teachers unions. they were spreading the policy, they were worried about the teachers, and then we kept them closed here and suddenly the new york times says now, look, collateral damage. well, we were talking about this two years ago. sandra: not to mention american pediatrics when they said that s it, kids have to get back to school, it s bad for their mental health. dr. siegel, thank you very much. thank you guys, good to see you. [gunshots]
good match to the h3n2, so a pretty good year to actually get your flu shot. we don t know for sure until the end of the year, but i m definitely telling people to get it. sandra: got it, dr. siegel, we heard a new interview with dr. fauci, asked about the school lockdowns and whether he regrets that happening. listen. what we should realize and have realized that there will be collateral consequences. they always say fauci was responsible for closing schools. i had nothing to do. let s get down to the facts. sandra: nothing to do with it. what did you what did you think when you heard that? sandra, i have personal experience with this. back at the very beginning in march 2020, i interviewed dr. fauci and said i think lockdowns may not work and i was worried they would cause a lot of collateral damage he agreed but
griff, what do they show? that s right, good morning, guys. what did he know? when did he know it? that is what bret baier is finding out. and it s putting dr. fauci in a really uncomfortable spot. emails obtained by fox news in this investigation shows scientists, including fauci, were warned the virus may have originated at the wuhan lab. now, let s go back to the earliest days here in the timeline. january 2020. almost exactly two years ago from today. fauci is told his nih branch has been indirectly funding the lab. four days later, a noted virology just dr. christian andersen tells fauci covid looks engineered according to notes on that call nih director francis collins is quoted saying do not write a paper at all on the