told fareed zakaria. i don t think there is unanimity in nato about whether or not to bring ukraine into the nato family now at this moment in the middle of a war. for example, if you did that, then, you know and i mean what i say we re determined to commit every inch of territory that is nato territory, it s a commitment that we have all made no matter what. if the war is going on, then we re all in a war, you know, we are in a war with russia if that were the case. so i think we have to lay out a path for the a rational path for russia excuse me, for ukraine to be able to qualify to get into nato. but i think it s premature to say to call for a vote, you know, even now because there s other qualification that is need to be met, including de