News coverage is provided. Eric lets go to chicago. Andrew, how do we know this claim is true as giuliani claims someone fiddled with the tape. I dont think anyone knows whether the tape has been fiddled with. I wouldnt put anything past him. Even if these tapes prove to be admissible, they still have major problems. The tapes arent complete. Its apparently a tape of a tape. And you have big segments of the tape that cant be heard. Remember there is still nothing illegal that was discussed in those tapes. I realize why everybody likes it. We have the president of the United States talking about a payoff to a Playboy Model that never took place. It appears mr. Trump says
something so exclusive with his client. Thats a breach. Then releasing this information to cnn to try to make the president look bad. It doesnt matter if the president waived the i have with respect to these tapes or conversations. You cant put these tapes out to people to try to embarrass your client. If hes able to av
current situation. you know, they red to be loyal to vladimir putin, until there was a break between putin and prigozhin and the wagner group, obviously there was no problem. interesting. jill, how might this fit into putin s efforts to try to weed out disloyalty after that failed mutiny? well, if there really are 30 other people involved, you can bet that he s looking around trying to figure out who he can trust at this point, and also, they re beginning to kind of dismantle wagner, you know, wagner is very valuable because it s involved in syria, in africa, in money making efforts in all of those countries, and certainly putin wouldn t want to give that up. so at this point, i think they have to figure out what to do with it in addition to what do they do with prigozhin. good point. evelyn, we ve also learned that a social network under the umbrella of prigozhin s
coming up, at the top of the hour, erin is live in ukraine talking with the former vice president mike pence who made an unannounced trip to kyiv today. listen. you mentioned putin. of course, you have met him. you dealt with him when you were vice president. do you think he has full command of his military right now? i think it s an open question. the wagner group is a specialty group. we have some familiarity with them. american forces encountered the wagner group in syria in 2018 when they moved against our forces. after being warned multiple times, the order was given. we took them out without one american casualty. they are understood to be some
reporter: while surovikin was quick to call on prigozhin to stop the insurrection translator: you must do this before it is too late. obey the will and command of the elected president of the russian federation. reporter: there is no doubt surovikin and prigozhin are close. while prigozhin continuously ripped into russia s defense minister for alleged ammo shortages during the battle for bakhmut, for surovikin, nothing but praise. translator: this is the only man with the star of an army general who knows how to fight. reporter: surovikin led russia s war in ukraine for three months last year, just as wagner s battle for bakhmut was escalating. he was also putin s top general in syria in 2017, leading a brutal campaign to crush the opposition to syrian president bashar al assad and working side by side with prigozhin s wagner mercenaries. so far, there s no indication the russians implicated
reported, he went to syria, and the nickname was the butcher of aleppo. the russian nickname for him as head of the aerospace was general armageddon. so, he s a smart guy, but he may be in too deep, and just don t know what is exactly happening. but he is in trouble, it looks like. andre, the significance of this, though, can t be underestimated because this goes right into putin s inner circle. the new york times says surovikin knew about prigozhin s plans. and you report that putin trusted surovikin. it s putting those two things together that is so crucial. how could this happen? and what does this mean? putin trusted surovikin. yes, i just wanted to remind you of that. it was surovikin who convinced putin to leave kherson last fall