to go. the fact that he got a search warrant and the fact that he got it approved by a federal judge would tell me that they have a pretty good idea where they re looking and what they might be able to find. trump must be going crazy knowing this is going on. thank you, tom winter, great reporting. kim wehle, and our great peter baker. you too metropolitan papers. you and that other one in washington have been doing amazing work. thank you. coming up, the reaction to the staggering news today that the federal bureau of investigation has raided the office of the lawyer to the president of the united states. even in this crazy time, isn t that wild? and my big question tonight, what files are in that office? and what will they tell us about what we know about donald trump, who he has gotten payments to, who have kept quiet, the whole works. it s all up there and it may lead to the firing of bob mueller with within the next few hours. who knows. the way the president was talking a
scandal that trump is facing here. i m with you. this is a side star porn star scandal, not the big russia investigation. but what i m curious about is depending on what they find in that office, and you guys might have some thoughts about this, this can circle back around it seems to me to the russia investigation. cohen was involved as my understanding and some of the ukraine business and all of that. and who knows what they might find in his office about russian oligarchs who set up shop in trump tower and were laundering money and doing their criminal activities from trump tower. who knows how much of that cohen knew about. and is going or the discovered in this. david johansson e-mailed a few minutes ago. this is like the ken starr thing in the sense that the civil case involving paula jones somehow metastasized and merged with the prosecution of the president and the whole thing went wild. this is taking a civil case involving michael avenatti and going after him on the mon
under review here by the u.s. attorney s office by the justice department, by the fbi. and that may explain the reaction that you described at the opening of the show of the president being very upset by this news that his personal attorney s offices were raided today. tom hamburger, amazing. great reporting by the washington post and you, sir. thank you. thank you. let s bring in renato moradi and tom winter as well. let s go into this legal. start with kim right next to me. kim, this question of what can they use here? anything they find? well, the question that would arise with this if this ever turned into an actual indictment and prosecution, they would move to keep that information out. and the judge would make rulings on that. the issue here is really people need to understand the system worked really well here. we have the top levels of the justice department signing off on this. in the u.s. attorney s manual,
and whether that s enough, they want more, they want that killed. and this whole investigation by mueller. because mueller s investigation as written down by rosenstein was anything that comes up as part of the investigation is fair game. here is the key point. you can t get out of this if you re donald trump by firing mueller. even if you fired mueller, the fbi investigation still goes on. the u.s. attorney investigation still goes on. are you talk about trump the person or what we know? he may try. but the only way he can succeed, he could have to fire the fbi director. is it better than sitting and dying? it s not about getting rid of one guy. charlie sykes, you re a smart critic of this president. watching him and his psyche, is he the type to lay down and let this happen, the fuse burning all the way to him and his lawyer s office or i m going to do the best i can. i m going to shoot the moon and start firing people. what you think? i m always reluctant to get
inside donald trump s head because that s kind of a scary place for me. but you re absolutely right. this is a president who will at least vent, at least consider punching back. but as david says, there is no easy way out for him. but what donald trump has figured out is number one, you change the subject. you come up with distractions and you count on your base to provide you cover. bomb syria now? charlie? well, he woke up this morning thinking i may need a bigger distraction, you know. look, i think we re probably going to bomb syria anyway. a scary face of john bolton behind the president. and then i saw him in the next scene sitting next to him today. what kind of advice do you get from bolton? attack. exactly. would any of us put it past president trump to decide that a nice little military adventure in syria might be a nice distraction from this? this is when this gets existential for trump, and i think we re approaching that point now when you re getting michael cohen