don t believe oz our pentagon has said, they don t believe the ukrainians need the migs. if the ukrainians are asking us for weaponry, we need to make sure we re doing everything possible to get it to them. president zelenskyy has posed some baffling and challenging existential questions about the existence of the united nations, united nations security council, even nato. these organizations established, many in the wake of world war ii, to make sure what happened in world war ii doesn t happen again and he s been questioning whether or not they actually are effective in any way. what have been your thoughts on that? i think you have to make a very clear distinction between nato, which i think is the most effective and successful military alliance in history, period, and the united nations which i think has caused real questions about whether or not it can accomplish or is accomplishing any of the objectives for which it was created.
saying, president zelenskyy says we ll negotiate as soon as this next battle is over. well, hopefully the next battle will be a complete victory. if it s not, then the negotiations are going to be up to zelenskyy, whatever he would like to put forward. and he s also said the ukrainian people will express their will in a referendum following whatever negotiations do take place. just to be clear, and i understand what you re saying, but is the u.s. doing everything that it can do to equip the ukrainians to wage this war against the russians, or is there anything more you think the u.s. could be doing right now? and when i say anything more, not just providing weapons but being faster and providing weapons or faster in providing intelligence, that kind of thing? well, most of that is classified but there s been some reports that the united states is providing intelligence.
southeast. they have said, you know, phase one is over, achieved all our objectives, which actually they withdrew from, again, the main effort originally which was kyiv, they didn t topple the government, replace president zelenskyy with a pro-russian figure. so now they re putting it all into the southeast. what they d like to do of course is by 9 may they d like to have a success so that when they celebrate world war ii victory day they can also say that they have now denazi if i had the southeast part of ukraine, that s all they really wanted to do all along. again, they would love to have an area that would be all of this right here plus this ground link. he could paint that as a success, president putin could and, again, you have this one general that will be in charge of all of this. so the first time you actually have one figure who is the overall commander. he has been involved here, but now everyone else is stepping aside, he is in charge. and, again, i think you can you can
sure we re doing everything possible to get it to them. president zelenskyy has posed baffling and challenging existential questions about the united nations, united nations security council, even nato. these organizations established, many in the wake of world war ii, to make sure what happened in world war ii doesn t happen again and he s been questioning whether or not they actually are effective in any way. what have been your thoughts on that? i think you have to make a very clear distinction between nato, which i think is the most effective and successful military alliance in history, period, and the united nations which i think has caused real questions about whether or not it can accomplish or is accomplishing any of the objectives for which it was created. when you have russia sitting on the security council. when you have nations on the
important, but, of course, there are funds from the european union, structural funds, $17 billion, that are there to accommodate these more than 4 million refugees. yesterday i was in kyiv. i saw president zelenskyy and i promised to him that we re going to take good care of the refugees until they can return safely home. that is very important, to rebuild their country. but there is also 6.5 million internally displaced people in ukraine who urgently need help. i m very grateful that the pledging event today was also organized for them because they need support through the ukrainian authorities. i m very glad 1.8 billion euros will go to ukraine refugees in ukraine. this is very important for the ukrainian authorities, too. and president von der leyen, you made a point of visiting bucha this week to see the aftermath of the atrocities firsthand there. you also met with president zelenskyy in kyiv.