the disgraced-former president, lobbying what may be his favorite insult, rino. lindsey graham s wrong. i mean, lindsey is a nice guy but he is a rino. these people are being treeted horribly. i would absolutely. yeah, i would absolutely give them a pardon. the punishments are out what they have done to them, compared to what they ve done to the other side, you know, you have to have equal justice and this isn t equal. so, i would absolutely be prepared and lindsey graham doesn t know what the hell he is talking about. lindsey graham defending his comment, saying quote all americans are entitled to have a speedy trial and their day in court. but those who actively engage in violence for whatever political cause may be held accountable and not be forgiven. it is all part of the same old playbook, really. intimidating, threatening, dangling pardons. the stalled witness in the ukraine impeachment saga. the former-first the
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as his unpaid pro bono personal lawyer. that s why the southern district of new york is now investigating. what we ve really found from the offshoot of this impeachment probe is what he did in ukraine was not a one-off. it was a systematic effort around the world to have influence and some commingling of business and his own political influences that have disserved a lot of folks around the president. if you talk to people around president trump, they wish rudy giuliani would go away, they think he s a problem for the president, they don t think he s helping the president. but the president doesn t see it tha w that way and the president has made no firm move to distance himself from giuliani. i think what you ll see going forward, he ll be a central player in the impeachment saga, but there will be lots of new revelations likely to come out about him as well. i think that s right. josh, great reporting. up next, voters in iowa and new hampshire quiz the candidates, and maybe not o
sounded. the mueller investigation, i want to talk more about in a minute, the impeachment saga, the entire drama of the trump of trump s one term in office is now laid bare before us, and it does seem like the republican party would be happy to put him back in the oval office despite everything that we learned about him. that to me is sort of soul sucking. you remain sort of optimistic that we can get past that and republicans can change despite what you re seeing from them right now about their willingness to buy this stief. stuff. you know, i do remain optimistic. and just as and i keep coming back to something that robert carol once said in an interview, that power doesn t corrupt as much as it reveals. it doesn t always reveal for our best, but it reveals. and for every story of it revealing in people a willingness to sacrifice everything they claim to believe in, their ideology, the endless