the four witnesses we have called have not been heard from. that is the difference, and it is a difference totally overwhelming. tonight schumer also suggesting start dates for the trial and giving ideas how it should be handled. political experts say public now could later lead to democrats accusing republicans of not holding a fair trial. majority leader mitch mcconnell expected to talk about all of the smoke machine end. shannon: we will be listening mark meredith, thank you very much. the house impeachment article just days away and sparking serious backlash outside of the beltway. cheap breaking news trace gallagher takes a look at that tonight, good evening trays. good evening, elissa slotkin a democrat and criticize her for her left colleagues for wanting to impeach the president the day they got elected. but now, she too will vote to impeach the president and during town hall today and her
basically the process. eventually it s going to get to how much time? who is going to talk and those kinds of decisions. it is historic and the reason we are looking at this is because this is only the third time in the history of our country that this has happened. we need to remember that in the big picture that no matter where you are ideologically, it s a moment in time. i think to your point, a lot of voters have already determined how they think about it one way or the other. they are looking to next year to make their own decision in the election. harris: you hear senator dick durbin on mitch mcconnell s objection to witnesses. the house had 17 witnesses that created the impeachment article and they want their bite at the apple, the democrats, in the senate. do you think they will get it? do you think anyone can move the needle such that democrats could do in the senate where they wouldn t allow much of republicans the house that is to call the people they want?
feared when they wrote the impeachment article. impeachment is the proper response by house democrats in this situation. always great to get your perspective. former representative david jolly, appreciate your time with us tonight. the rest of the panel stays with us. see you soon. coming up, education, not impeachment. it was the topic of the day for 2020 presidential candidates at msnbc s public education forum. r insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wow. thanks, zoltar. how can i ever repay you? maybe you could free zoltar? thanks, lady. taxi! only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.
where there was an allegation or an impeachment article that went to the question of abuse of power, and also, that was entirely along party lines and that never survived the full house of representatives. so you know, you can talk about the fact that you can have an impeachment article pretty much whatever the house decide social security appropria house deci appropriate, but they suggest that a well founded well placed article of impeachment alleges a crime. i also suggest it is an on instruction of congress. and they are reviewing. a case involving whether or not president immunity is well asser asserted. it is not likely to be the last of the review by the supreme court in this term. and there are other matters
problems when it comes to mapping out parameters of this trial come january. david jolly, censure possible? no, i think that s off the table. and you saw this debated as a compromise during the clinton impeachment. the difference here is democrats in 98 were willing to have the conversation with republicans. what if we delivered votes for a censure to say that president clinton s behavior was wrong? republicans under donald trump will never acknowledge the wrongdoing of the president. and so they will never offer a censure compromise. and house democrats are right to impeach the president. this is exactly what the framers envisioned. this was the presidency they feared when they wrote the impeachment article. impeachment is the proper response by house democrats in this situation. all right. always great to get your perspective. former representative david jolly. appreciate your time with us tonight. the rest of the panel stays with us. see you soon. coming up, education, not im