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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20191016 02:56:00

this is what congressman jamie raskin told us earlier tonight about republican members of congress in those closed door depositions in the impeachment investigation. we have this parade of extremely capable, competent, patriotic government servants, public servants who have spent decades working in the government and working to advance the public interest. and the juxtaposition is so striking between them and the kinds of people that we re talking about in the trump administration that i think it has somewhat shamed and embarrassed our colleagues and they re acting increasingly sheepish as these hearings go along. rick wilson, shamed and embarrassed and sheepish. i m so sorry you can t watch that.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20191016 02:13:00

white house, about what s been said in these depositions. right. well, your first analogy, i think, is the most correct one, lawrence. in an impeachment process, according to the constitution, the house of representatives is acting like a prosecutor and the grand jury. in a way you could strew judiciary committee is the prosecutors who will bring before the full house acting as a grand jury, the evidence, and then the house will vote. at that point it s sent to the senate which will conduct a trial. i think a lot of our republican colleagues are falling into the fallacy of thinking of the house as conducting a trial. that s the point at which the due process protections will attach on both sides. meantime , what whaer doing is what grand juries do. . the benefit of specials appointed as with kenneth starr

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20191016 02:12:00

closed-door atmosphere now. let s listen to this. we re doing these initial hearings in closed session and it makes a lot of sense to do that when you re conducting an investigation because i m sure the white house would like nothing more than to be able to get their stories straight by hearing what these witnesses have to say. and there are good reasons not to let one witness know what another witness has said. congressman raskin, this process obviously has similar versions elsewhere in the judicial system for grand juries frequencies and trials in which witnesses are sequestered during the trial because they don t want the witnesses to hear each other so they can get their stories straight. but one of the flaws in that concept here is that presumably the republican members of your committees, many of them will relay as much as they possibly can, certainly to the trump

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20191016 02:07:00

be growing sentiment among our gop colleagues to find some scapegoats, some fall guys. i think that rudy giuliani right now is looking pretty lonely. ambassador sondland is looking pretty lonely, and i think there may be some effort to try to amputate them from donald trump and say, oh, he was the victim of all these people. the problem is that the smoking gun in this investigation is what kicked it off. it was the phone call where donald trump reveals himself to be executing the scheme right there. i want you to do us a favor, though. that pretty much captured the entire thing. he knew he was holding up $391 million in foreign military assistance that we in congress had voted for a besieged democratic alley resisting russian aggression all in order to get president zelensky to agree to stage this political hit on the guy that donald trump was fearing as his opponent, joe biden, and his son, hunter

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20191016 02:20:15

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20191016 02:20:15
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