impeachment process. gordon sondland will be testifying on wednesday. how should lawmakers handle this testimony? you ve been there in congress during an impeachment hearing. well, we held our hearings of witnesses behind closed doors. but on the judiciary committee, senate watergate committee has public hearings, but sondland is a delicate case. he has personally talked to the president. he i think has tried in the past to protect the president action tried to walk a fine line good perjury and telling the truth. but he knows that he is in danger if he doesn t tell the truth because the problem with this case is that there are too many witnesses. too many people who know what is going on. john bolton knows what is going on. he had conversations with the president. but he is not showing up. eisenburg knows what is going on, he deep sixed some of the that july 25th tape, transcript.
and the republican texas congressman who is outgoing william hurd also praised the ambassador. do you get a sense as if the democrats feel that they are coming off a win from last week? talking to democrats, i think that they do feel that, but they are really pressing forward to next week when they will get more first and testimony from people like security officials namely sondland, alexander vindman, another person who was actually on the july 25th phone call. one of the things that republicans were doing last week was they were hammering these witnesses over the fact that none of them had firsthand knowledge of either the phone call or sort of the behind the scenes machinations of what democrats were portray going as a quid pro quo. people coming up this week will have firsthand knowledge of that. and i think that is what democrats are looking forward to in trying to draw out of the witnesses. and to try to push back against what the republicans are arguing in defending the pres
according to many witnesses was testifying to the fact that quid pro quo had in fact occurred. so his testimony next week is going to be highly anticipated. you know, i m sure that the president will try to distance position further from gordon sondland. he already has saying at first that he is a really great guy and then saying that he doesn t really know him. but ultimately you have many diplomats and officials who have testified to the fact that gordon sondland briefed him before the july 25th phone call, was negotiating behind the scenes and working with kurt volker and bill taylor to tell the ukranians what they would have to do in order to get the coveted white house meeting with the president and get the aid released. and this will be a busy week ahead in timpeachment inquiry. we have public testimony coming up from fiona hill and vindmaler vindm
trump on this. gordon sondland 1 tis the big firsthand witness that democrats will be hearing from. sondland went into this process being the witness who was at least trying to be most helpful to the president. but in having to amend his testimony once and now we learned about the second phone call from july 1626th where he talking in a restaurant and he didn t rot that either, is it looks like he might have to make a second amendment to his testimony, his credibility is really coming into question. and you can see republicans flipping to someone who nts can can t be trusted about anything that he says. a lot of people will be watching that tc watching that testimony. and now in louisiana, the democratic governor reelected
i think sofi money is amazing. thank you sofi. sofi thank you, we love you. this week the impeachment inquiry intensifies with possibly consequential public testimony. gordon sondland will be in the hot seat for what has the potential to be the most impa impactful testimony. barbara mcquaid is a former u.s. attorney in michigan and is joining us from ann arbor. thanks for being here. quick question. some democrats are out there saying raising concerns that sondland may have perjured himself during police clohis cl testimony. what is your take?