still immuno compromised am. it depends. you can measure that. you can see how many of these types of immune cells they actually have in their system. they re often sort of followed along for that specifically whereas people who may take immuno suppressant drugs for transplant, for example, some people may take these type of drugs because they have auto immune d immune diseases. 10 million people is a big group of people but who specifically is that going to be? i think that s what part of the fda and cdc will drill down on. there s some guidance on what people with one dose of the johnson & johnson should do, but would an immune yo compromised person who received one dose of the j&j vaccine i assume now they d be able to get a dose of pfizer or moderna? it s really important for the fda or cdc to come out with strong recommendations that certain groups of immune yo
trying to figure out how do we address this surge in cases. one of the things we learned is there will be authorization in the next few hours at this point for a third dose of the vaccine for some people. for whom and what does this mean? first of all, the surge, it is a problem as you talked to doctors all morning. we re seeing that in atlanta where i live as well, where patients can t come in for other things. you know, if you get in a car accident, you get shot, i mean, they re having a hard time finding beds for acute trauma right now. everybody is affected by this, as you guys have heard. what this means now specifically for people who have weakened immune systems who are immunocompromised, 9 or 10 million people in the country. people who take immuno suppressant drugs for organ transplants, hiv people, all these types of things, they are the types of patients we re talking about. the issue is they were not mounting the same sort of
had. and then even just the first strain, and now it s mutated, and you know, it gets a little nerve-racking. now, chicago has not seen that similar surge that you have seen in other parts of the country. the concern and the hope is that this event does not lead to that. chris. certainly. so dr. ranney, you are looking at the safety protocols they re putting in place in places like disneyland, disney world, in chicago. would you say it s generally safe for people to attend these mass gathering with those protocols in place? if you re fully vaccinated, attending large gatherings is going to be tremendously low risk. the one caveat that i ll put is if you re someone who is immuno suppressed, someone getting treatment for cancer, who is on immuno suppressant drugs. i would probably stay away from mass gatherings even if i were fully vaccinated. although we are hearing about a few breakthrough infections with
patient load grew by 67% over the past week to 720 from 430. at uf health, jacksonville, one doctor said 90% of covid-19 patients were unvaccinated and 5% were not fully vaccinated. the remaining 5% were vaccinated but also had significant comorbidities or were on immuno suppressant drugs. let s stop there for one second, mika, as far as the vaccines go. sam stein, nobody ever said the vaccines were perfect. in fact, pfizer s efficacy rate was 95%. i think moderna, the efficacy rate, 89, 88%. at least that s what they were saying when it started. j&j lower, i think around 75%, those numbers have played out. and as we ve said, as everybody said, if you don t get the