or starting up as well, it s really criminal defense law 101 to advise the senior figures, take the fifth, don t give them a chance to charge you with perjury, and that appears to be what one of these folks has done. can you do that indefinitely? and can you keep just calling in sick? sick is sick. if the person is actually sick, they can t be forced to testify. certainly the panel can say, we want to get proof you re sick, you re not just dodging us. in terms of taking the fifth. looking ahead to the backside of the investigation to when the grand jury, criminal investigation starts. the government can get an immunity order. can say, have you immunity, you have to testify, you don t have the fifth amendment right any more. but then that person as a practical matter can t be prosecutor. the government has tough decisions to make about immunity. they don t want to start deciding who s a target, who they re going to immunize. at this point there s nothing to
in terms of taking the fifth. looking ahead to the backside of the investigation to when the grand jury, criminal investigation starts. the government can get an immunity order. can say, you have immunity, you have to testify, you don t have the fifth amendment right any more. but then that person as a practical matter can t be prosecutor. the government has tough decisions to make about immunity. and certainly at this early stage, they don t want to start deciding who s a target, who they re going to immunize. at this point there s nothing to do except just accept that they re taking the fifth. before they can start giving immunity to people, they have to have a sense of what actually happened before the explosion, to figure out who to give immunity to? absolutely. that s the most important thing, to give someone immunity, you can t take it back. once they actually testify under a grant of immunity, it s effectively impossible to prosecute them.
witness in the grand jury. i asked him one question. do you know frank sinatra? he refused to answer. well, that seems like a big red flag. sure. i gave him an immunity order. i asked him do you know frank sinatra. he refused to answer. i took him before the judge, and he spent the next 18 months in prison under a contempt order. did you ever find fought he knew frank sinatra. oh, i knew he knew frank sinatra. there you go. but he could have at any point in time in those 18 months come out and testified, and he would have been out of prison. the 18 months is the life of the grand jury. what s interesting here is we ve got a special grand jury for the special counsel. it s very likely this grand jury could get extended beyond 18 months. so he s really nunberg is playing with fire. he could wind up in jail for three years if he refuses to produce his documents and refuses to go to the grand jury. let me ask you this, neil. the questions that we re
spekt as i look i should have used two accounts. one for personal and one for work related e-mails. that was a mistake. i take responsibility for that. i am sorry that it has raised all of these questions. i do take responsibility for having made what is clearly not the best decision. clinton also posted a decision on social media and writing on the facebook page that she made a mistake by using a private e-mail and could have and should have done a better job answering questions earlier. she also apologized at the taping of the ellen show yesterday set to air on thursday. she is not the only one that people want to hear from. top senators are seeking testimony from the state department aide that was privately paid to set up the server. in a joint letter the senators say that they can protect him with an immunity order if he