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yeah, there is what s the other way to get a deal that s going to pass? you don t talk about rewarding those who are illegally here. then there will be no deal. well, that s a problem. you re being held hostage you re using words like hostage. i m going to ask you a political question. this is a political show. will there ever be a deal on immigration reform that doesn t include all three, something on the border, something on the employer id and something for people who have been here a long time? absolutely, chris, and all we ve got to do is get the democrat white house willing to take on the source of the problem and that s the employers who are exploiting the illegal labor. that democratic administration and a democratic congress should be able to do. who are they protecting? the chamber of commerce? if the democrats can t take on the chamber of commerce and their buddies, who is ever going to do it? well, i keep hearing from people like dick armey on the what
bill: how about bingo and dance classes and continental breakfast on sundays? these are some of the perks which are being offered to illegals at some point in detention centers in places around houston, texas. iowa senator charles grassley, fired up about this and so too is california congressman brian bilbray, chairman of the immigration reform caucus and our guest from the hill. sir, good morning to you. grassley fired off a letter, i m going to read part of that in a moment. just on the surface of this, is this a good idea if it goes forward? i think it s a terrible idea and i think it not only sends a terrible message to those who are thinking of immigrating illegally but sends a message to american citizens across this country that to be illegally in this country you re treated better than if you re a u.s. citizen or illegal immigrant. that this is another step in rewarding the illegal immigration behavior, rather than addressing it as a problem. bill: some people who are in
authorization. mayor gordon is now asking the united states justice department to take a stand. for more, let me bring in california congressman brian bill bray. he is the chairman of the immigration reform caucus. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. we have some agreement and some errors areas on this. but specifically on this law in arizona, the fight that s going on, do you really think that we re making headway when it comes to securing our borders, making sure everybody is paying their taxes? i mean, where are we going with this whole conversation in this country, in your opinion? ed, we ought to be finding those things we do agree on. look, i grew up on the border. i m probably the only member of congress to have rescued illegals when they were drowning. i was a lifeguard and recovered their bodies. i saw them slaughtered on the freeways. we always talk about securing the borders when you and i know, the problem is not at the border. that s a symptom. the real probl
committee. and republican congressman brian bilbray of california is a member of the house immigration reform caucus. i want to get to this issue of birthing, or birthers because there s part of this legislation out there that are basically going to say future presidential candidates, they have to have birth certificates. let s start with this general issue. congresswoman sanchez, what s wrong with the state trying to enforce the law, the federal government never seems around to enforcing? they have half a million illegal immigrants in arizona. the federal government has dropped the ball. why shouldn t the state of arizona pick it up and do the job? well, actually the federal government has put more resources. many of the law enforcement agencies in arizona are under 287-g but what we find is they re not very well trained about what the rights are of people. so the problem with the law like this is that, for example, i m hispanic. so if i go to arizona, does that mean i have to car