the globe, professor at harvard. walk me through here, let s just take it back for a minute. take it back. they re initially facing immigration charges. there is a school which dzhokhar tsarnaev two of them. two of them. and now it is a parallel story here, parallel paths. there were two court proceedings, we have two different judicial systems, one is immigration, one could say it is an easier system if you violate your immigration status, you go before an immigration judge. as of this morning, at least two of them were facing something some sort of immigration charge. that turns around within an hour and now they re facing this indictment. two takeaways. one is interesting, this is the first read, what the fbi is alleging at this stage. they met here. so for all of us putting the pieces together, about the foreign influence, the fbi is alleging or at least based on statements by the two that were indicted today, they met here at the school, family, they became sort of fam
you re a retired atf special agent in charge. as you re hearing from the reporting going on today, how big of a deal could this be, a big break, if there are three people that could reveal some answers about the brothers and what their method and reasonings were? well, i think it s real important. the questions are what you ve been discussing. did they help prior? did they purchase some of the components possibly or deliver them? that could be not full knowledge of conspiracy to bomb, but maybe just a person who went out and purchased some items for them. could they be persons who disposed of items after the fact? because they re college students. so it can vary from accessory before the fact to accessory after the fact, like mike said, to an immigration charge. or if it s really serious, it
police officers are trained from the very first hour, the very first day, in police training 101. the basic tenets and understanding basic tenets and constraints of reasonable suspicion and probable cause. that law this law didn t change any of that. that was still required and actually emphasized under this law, that those conditions have to apply. there has to be a precipitating event, that a stand-alone immigration charge is not going to work under this existing legislation. larry: thank you for the all too brief time. we re going to spend a lot more time on this in the days ahead, and we expect to have both sheriffs back on, maybe for a longer time, to discuss this. the debate s just beginning. a panel joins us next. [ woman ] when i grow up, i want to take him on his first flight. i want to run a marathon. i m going to work with kids. i m going to own my own restaurant. when i grow up, i m going to start a band. [ female announcer ] at aarp we believe you re never done gro
been in this business. larry: no, but she said if that law passed that would happen. why would it? police officers are trained from the very first hour, the very first day, in police training 101. the basic tenants and understanding basic tenants and constraints of reasonable suspicion and probable cause. that law this law didn t change any of that. that was still require and actually emphasized under this law that those conditions have to apply. there has to be a precipitating event, that a stand-alone immigration charge is not going to work under this existing legislation. larry: thank you for the all too brief time. we ll spend a lot more time on this in the days ahead. we expect to have both sheriffs back on maybe for a longer time to discuss this. the debate s just beginning. a panel join us next.
immigration charge in that chamber. guterres told fox, quote, we are back to square one on immigration. and, shep, just happening this evening, president obama just spoke at a town hall meeting in iowa. and he spoke about the arizona law. he called it, quote, poorly conceived and said he would try to bring democrats to the table to talk about it but needs help from republicans to pass reform legislation. this just happening now. shepard: molly, you know, interestingly, mexico is now warning its citizens about visiting arizona. yes. mexican officials said in a travel alert in-to-its citizens that there is a, quote, adverse political atmosphere in arizona toward, quote, my grant communities and all mexican visitors much the alerted by the mexican foreign relations department urges mexican citizens to respect what they call, quote, the framework of local laws in arizona. shep? shepard: molly henneberg on capitol hill tonight. molly, thanks. we are learning more about unruly passenge