note that i think around 40% of undocumented immigrants come to the u.s. by plane and overstay their visa and that s how they become undocumented. and a wall wouldn t have fixed that. so someone like me i would not it wouldn t have prevented me from being undocumented. and that s something that i think this administration doesn t actually get right, that a lot of undocumented folks don t come in through with inspection they overstay their visas. you were a visa overstay? that s right. you are headed to oxford in the fall. we talk about the legal limbo. one of the things that isn t clear, once you go to the uk, whether you can come back? yeah. and still don t know. last time i was here i was still uncertain how i m going to figure out the legal challenge of going abroad and coming back with some sort of guarantee that i ll be able to return. but the bottom line is this. daca remains one of the most important advances for immaterial grant rights community. and my ability to