continue to harass our aircraft, manned and unmanned and it is definitely a message to the united states, correct. the washington post is reporting on the growing pessimism in the ukrainian ranks, doubts over whether they can actually pull off as much anticipated spring offensive with green troops and russia is running constrcripts to the fro lines who have very little training, if any where does that mean this war goes from here we got to remember if you re going to conduct an attack, even in the best circumstances, you as the attacker have to outnumber the defender three to one. if you couple that with the fact that the russians are defending on the other side of the river, river crossings are essential in some areas, that makes it even more difficult if you have green troops, more difficult yet. if you are short of ammunition, it makes it very nearly impossible and don t forget we re going into the springtime. pretty soon where all the area around there, don t forget this
we do know that he s going to be speaking after he directed the national security adviser, jake sullivan, to lead the interagency team for the procedures downing the china balloon, do you expect they will reveal protocol now? they did say they developed new protocol, i think it was karine jean-pierre at the white house briefing earlier this week, they have new protocols for taking down unidentified objects. would that reveal that? i hope so. i ve been talking over a week we should review all of our policies when it comes to air space surveillance and the policy, manned, unmanned, commercial, noncommercial, and not just review the policy john: mr. secretary, if you could, hang with us. let s go to the president. high altitude balloon. our military, through norad,
0 out because it was jammed. are we to believe that this didn t get any communications out back to beijing because it was effectively jammed all the way through by either the intelligence agencies or the military? yeah, well, dealing with the first thing, it s obvious, i think, given the action we took against these three unidentified objects, we did not act accordingly when air space was about to be violated by the spy balloon in alaska, did not shoot it down, that reacted in i think what may be an overreaction to the others. he has to be absolutely clear what we are going to do about it. i don t think he s going to fess up to the fact that they may have made a mistake in permitting it to go across the united states. i believe he did, he s going to get questions around that. in terms of what did we learn and did we shut them down, i m not a technology expert but my gut tells me we would never know for sure about that until we get ahold of the devices which we have in our hands now a
do you think it s as benign as that? absolutely, i think what the administration was caught off guard last week or so with the chinese spy balloon, there was a political backlash to what happened. dod went back, recalibrated what it s looking for. adjusted its filters. the security was probably briefed. you, so you have a lot more folks at norad looking closely that were identified maybe in the past that were either ignored or overlooked or disre disregarded. it s really going to drive a vev review of our policies and procedures of which we act on, manned or unmanned. military or civilian research, you name it. i think it s going to drive a big policy point that seems to be overdue. it seems to be overdue as you were in the trump administration. as you know, you had been on the air you had not been aware of
remember is don t think about this as single balloons or single events. we need to think about this as part of a broader enterprise that china s developed from intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance perspective. they re putting things in space. they have aircraft, manned and unmanned. they have the cyber space forces to conduct those types of missions. and now of course they re exploiting the near space. and we know the spy balloons are part of an extensive chinese surveillance program. all these reports about all these objects of ufos, some people were sort of scoffing when others said, oh, it s got to be china. well, now it appears that plenty of those, quote, unquote, were chinese surveillance equipment. and you know more than anybody about what s happening, given the roles that you ve had. are you worried about how much we don t know about what the chinese are doing in terms of spying on the u.s. right now? i m not worried. we have the best intelligence organizations in t