perceives that this might be bad. can i ask you this? because i heard what you could call the ignorance defense a lot early on in the administration when i was transitioning. he s been president for almost three years now. i totally agree with you and that s why you re supposed to have good staff to tell you that s not a good idea. how is mick mulvaney received currently on capitol hill based on the conversations you ve had with your sources? i think in some ways he s well regarded. he is a house conservative so he is trusted by them. he has things that they are executing on. there are some folks in the senate, more of the senate republican appropriations committee types who don t necessarily trust him because they view him as trying to sort of undercut a lot of bipartisan spending bills and deals. so he s got support in that, you know, he is the mouthpiece of the president of the united states, he is the chief of staff. when he does things, though, like what he did on sunday
is, i don t know what i m doing? that s a defense. which is different than, i m here to commit, melissa, an overt act as spattpart of a conspiracy. those are different things. those are very different things. and i think this is a group of individuals especially well suited to launch an ignorance defense. that said, there are some telling tidbits that have come out over the course of this investigation that lean more toward a concerted effort to do things that would help out dad rather than just mere ignorance. and i think that really might be the worry. and even if he s not going to be indicted, and he may well run again so he can t be indicted for another four years, if that s the possibility, but i do think the children are ones that could be implicated. and sam, what candidate or president hasn t said at one point or another, i want to run for office, not only to serve, not only to try to connect with the american people, go around the country and meet them, but to try to run o
ignorance as a defense issue first. i stopped buying into that ignorance defense a long time ago with this administration because look what you lead off with tonight. this story tonight that the president knew two weeks before the inauguration an adversary was trying to assist him responsible for hacking removes the ignorance defense and talking up, coughing up american citizens, coughing up a u.s. ambassador, the conclusion is he s aiding and abedding. we re joined by adam schiff, he just left the house floor forecasting votes. we have a breaking news report from the washington post indicating that president trump has known since january 6th, 2017 the new york times reports
is fund mentally unamerican. so let me address this ignorance as a defense issue first. i stopped buying into that ignorance defense a long time ago with this administration because look what you lead off with tonight. this story tonight that the president knew two weeks before the inauguration an adversary was trying to assist him responsible for hacking removes the ignorance defense and talking up, coughing up american z citizens, coughing up a u.s. ambassador, the conclusion is he s aiding and abedding. we re joined by adam schiff, he just left the house floor forecasting votes. we have a breaking news report from the washington post
offer assistance. that s contradicted by the meetings where he met with an emissary from the uae as well as the saudis. i think he needs to make an effort to reconcile that. his lawyers could try to have him do a written amendment to it rather than expose him again. and frankly, his tactic should be i m a businessman. i m not familiar in this realm. and i was speaking too sloppily here. give him a chance to amend that. otherwise, he faces criminal culpability. that s the argument there, it s an ignorance defense, right? like a defense of ignorance. is that something that will fly, or do you think that he could really face trouble, shan? technically, he s already committed the 1,001 false statements. but they might think with that explanation it s not worth going after him for it. what are you hearing? i think it s i would think differ a little bit. i think you know, the messiness