Concerns. No, he said he did so because secretary perry wanted the two leaders to discuss a natural gas project. And for his part, rick perry says it was all about energy and not at all about joe biden or his son. Absolutely, i asked the president multiple times, mr. President , we think it is in the United States and in in ukraines best interest that you and the president of ukraine have conversations, that you discuss the options that are there, absolutely, yes. Dana bash is in washington, dana, this transcript we have all read, shows trump and saturdzielinski never discussed energy issue once. Whats going on here . Rick per are you who we havent heard much from at all during the three years of the Trump Administration, and rick perry probably wears that as a badge of honor that he stayed below the radar and below the media, and probably more importantly away from the trump chaos is fully in it. You just played rick perry out of the country, traveling around doing his job as Energy S
Good to be with you this morning, im Frances Rivera in new york at msnbc world headquarters. It is 7 00 in the east, 4 00 out west and here is whats happening. The president and the impeachment fight. New takes on whats at stake, plus where Public Opinion is leaning right now. When the president obstructs and the white house stone walls, its going to be very difficult to meet these timelines. The democrats really need to get this right. Our democracy is in grave danger. Its never happened in american history. No president has ever been removed from office. Overseas new clashes in hong kong ahead why the next few days are key to the cause. And Britains Boris Johnson under fire. We will tell you why. Developing this morning, sunrise in washington where the battle lines are being drawn as House Democrats impeachment inquiry ramps up. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi telling democrats in texas last night that holding the president accountable is more important than politics. People say you have
face to face, and saying his or her source is a spy? the critical issue when you blow the whistle is you need to make sure that you re actually performing at 120%. every opportunity that s out there for somebody to take advantage of your situation, they may try to do that. and then the critical thing, and my experience was unique, because it was within the ig community, there were a number of people who were allegedly or reprised against who were ig staff, it s hard to get at those issues, because the ig s are supposed to do the investigations. how can they do them if they re not reprisers? this whistle-blower is not in that situation, this person appears to be outside the ig community, not only ig atkinson, but also the ig of whatever agency this whistle-blower has come from. they will have the tools to necessarily go forward and protect the person. all right, thank you very
himself from this whole thing because you have rudy giuliani who has very very vocal about this. in an interview he just read his personal text messages. it s been argued he s trying to further implicate the state department and hoping to draw attention away from himself. glen, how serious of a problem is this for the state department? you know, i think it could be a real problem for the state department because the summary, not transcript of the call, but the summary of the call that we now have seen shows that the president is engaged in improperly trying to extract something from the president of ukraine and holding congressionally allocated funds hostage in order to do that. so for the state department to have been involved in any way in furthering that effort is a legal problem. the people that i want to see testify, frances, are the people that ig atkinson refers to in