decades. when we look at the optics of this trip by the vice president mike pence, he wasn t initially scheduled to go outside, was he? but once he did and he was photographed by some of the north korean sol, jr.s there. once he do that and staired right into north korea, how would that message be received, do you think? well, i m not familiar with the vice president s ie ten rti. certainly that s not new. they have gone up to the joint security area on the dnc before and to veto the area and signal u.s. resolve. i think it s the same signal we ve seen and heard before. i don t think it s new. what they need to be aware, in case of any military actions by north korea. thank you so much for talking