in the united states and more broadly in the international community, i think if you re the families of the hostages, certainly the hostages themselves, if you re hamas and if you re the palestinians living inside of gaza, you are very pleased with the plan, but in terms of the right direction for immediate and long term security, for the israeli people, it falls well short, because there s no discussion, at least in the plan, about, other than a statement that those responsible for october 7th, israel still has the right to pursue those and bring them to justice so that implies their intelligence services and special operations forces probably continuing to pursue. but there s a major security gap that will be created by the withdrawal of israeli forces with no security replacement inside of gaza, starting with the major urban centres and then ultimately, if you go to phase two, where you see the withdrawal of forces.
certainly, you. organisation, since the early 90s, certainly. you - certainly, you. you heard president certainly, you. you heard president biden certainly, you. you heard president biden saying - certainly, you. you heard i president biden saying briefly certainly, you. you heard - president biden saying briefly to israel and messaging towards netanyahu, essentially, look, he does not believe that hamas still is a trip to israel, he made a big speech laying out this proposal. how much leverage do you think the white house has over this process right now? i house has over this process right now? ~ . ., , house has over this process right now? ~ . . , ., ., , now? i think certainly, what was said during now? i think certainly, what was said during the now? i think certainly, what was said during the announcement i now? i think certainly, what was | said during the announcement of now? i think certainly, what was - said during the announcement of this proposal, it s speaking to
israeli people, it falls well short, because there s no discussion, at least in the plan, about, other than a statement that those responsible for october the 7th, israel still has the right to pursue those and bring them to justice, that implies their intelligence services and special operations forces continuing to pursue. but there is a major security gap that will be created by the withdrawal of israeli forces with no security replacement inside of gaza, starting with the major urban centres and then ultimately, if you go to phase two, where you see the withdrawal of forces. i can certainly appreciate the concern expressed by those within the israeli populace and even here in our own country, in terms of, if the us is saying hamas is an international terrorist organisation, since the early 90s,
for another country, assessing the security environment foranother country, in assessing the security environment for another country, in my view. so i don t think that s really appropriate, given the nature of what happen october seven, and we are seeing, certainly, since the conflict started, the offensive by israel into gaza, they still have a significant capability to launch long range munitions into israel and have the ability to fight the idf inside of gaza, so. it is have the ability to fight the idf inside of gaza, so. . . have the ability to fight the idf inside of gaza, so. it is not ust the united inside of gaza, so. it is not ust the united states i inside of gaza, so. it is not ust the united states pushing h inside of gaza, so. it is notjust the united states pushing for - inside of gaza, so. it is notjust. the united states pushing for this. we just heard from uk the united states pushing for this. wejust heard from uk foreign minister cameron there, other arab nat
israel is responsible for addressing humanitarian crisis. as the force that conducted the subsequent invasion. i understand international call for a cease fire, and certainly the release of the hostages, absolutely, the innocence on both sides that are being caught up in this conflict, but it does not comport with the strategic end state, which is to a limited hamas s military capability in the governing body inside of gaza. body inside of gaza. very, very briefl , i body inside of gaza. very, very briefly, i want body inside of gaza. very, very briefly, i want to body inside of gaza. very, very briefly, i want to ask body inside of gaza. very, very briefly, i want to ask you, - briefly, i want to ask you, the details of the deal and the response of either side, how optimistic are you this actually gets done? hat you this actually gets done? not ve you this actually gets done? ijrrt very optimistic. i think that there is potential for a temporary cease fire, for an initial ex