in terms of a $3.5 trillion plan and manchin saying it s a $1.5 trillion plan. the question is, what does it do and what does it get people and the cost after that? we are in this pitch battle to bring the amount of that bill down by a few key moderates who need to support it. that s right, ali, and good morning. it s great to be with you. this really does come down to the idea that from the very beginning this was a sort of shaky system, a sort of shaky deal that the democrats and republicans put together. the president, the moment that he swaggered onto the white house driveway which was very unusual to announce there was a deal, only a few hours later he said, i m not going to sign the bipartisan bill if i don t also get this larger democrat-supported bill. manchin got angry and the president had to walk it back a bit. but you see a deal building with