incarcerate children is because mexico s violent and he thinks that s spilling over in the united states. we go to the morg in the special tonight in tijuana the most violent city in mexico where six people are murdered a day. over 1,700 murders last year alone. this year is expected to be on pace to pass that. if the president took the time to pick up his own dea reports and maybe read one page or two pages of those annual reports, he would learn that spillover violence is not something that happens in the united states. tijuana, ray nosera, they are dangerous cities in mexico but on the other side of the border, san diego, mccal lan, he will paso are some of the safest cities in ignoriu.s. he s ignoring his own agencies. we ve had deterrence as a border
them out over the course of the last 20-plus years of failed border policy in the united states spanning democratic and republican administrations that s culminated in a place where donald trump is putting little children in detention centers and stealing them away from their parents. what is the gap in your view having looked at the human toll between reasonably secure borders, which a lot of people want, and what is currently being called zero tolerance enforcement? the way that donald trump is describing what s happening down to border in washington, d.c. is about as far away from reality as it can be. there is no crisis on the border, it s about as safe as it can get on the american side. those are some of the safest cities in the united states of america. despite the violence that s on the other side. if he took the time to pick up his own dea reports and read a couple of pages on them, the spillover violence doesn t happen, the drugs come through
children in detention centers and stealing them away from their parents. what is the gap in your view, having looked at the human toll, between reasonably secure borders, which a lot of people want, and what is currently being called zero tolerance enforcement? the way that donald trump describes what s happening down on the border in washington, d.c., is just about as far removed from reality as it could possibly be. there is no crisis on the border. it s about as safe as it can get on the american side. those are some of the safest cities in the united states of america, despite the violence that s on the other side. if you took the time to pick up his own dea reports and read a couple of pages of them, he d learn this spillover violence doesn t happen, drugs come through legal ports of entry and young people who he akusz of being ms-13 members are anything but. he s tearing apart the fabric of american society down there on the border. i appreciate your reporting,
government-run programs in general? well, i think it says what we ve been saying, is that this has been a disaster. it s a tragedy for the country and i think we have to root out and drill down on this thing and root out these bad actors or we ll have this happen all over again no matter who is in a leadership position. will this audit, congresswoman, make this better for our veterans, to find solutions? the audit itself is a document and piece of paper that proves what we ve been thinking. but gretchen, there s been idea reports and gao reports and all kinds of reports that match up with that audit that basically say the same thing over many many, many months, if not years, which is, there is a systemic problem, somebody has to get to the bottom of it. that s where the committee itself has jurisdiction. we have to be able to commit and focus on the oversight, keep politics out of this thing and drive for solutions. i m not convinced. i don t know if this interim leader we have,