were socializing with members of the da s office, she talked about scoring in a witness while holding a ninja turtle popsicle she had obtained at an ice cream party thrown by the da s office. that makes the hair stand on my neck. for many reasons. as the member of a special grand jury, you said that she is allowed to give these interviews. but did anything she reveal aside from the ninja turtle stuff crossed the line, could this media towards somehow lead to a dismissal making it, my view, donald trump the luckiest man on earth? probably not. i do think that demonstrating that the grand jury was socializing with the prosecutors office could be problematic because it tends to undermine the independence of the grand jury. because of the unusual situation in georgia, where they first had the special grand jury that recommends charges, and then they have another grand jury which actually issues the charges, i
about the witnesses, they don t talk about charges, they don t talk about who got the reason for that is to protect the integrity of the investigation as well as the reputation of the accused. the situation is a bit different, it has been a very high profile investigation. no surprise who has been there testifying. also, the rules in georgia prohibit a grand jury solely from saying, disclosing the deliberations of the grand jury. i think that she was careful to follow those. and disclosing that they were socializing with members of the da s office, she talked about scoring in a witness while holding a ninja turtle popsicle she had obtained at an ice cream party thrown by the da s office. that makes the hair stand on my neck. for many reasons. as the member of a special grand jury, you said that she is allowed to give these interviews. but did anything she reveal aside from the ninja turtle stuff crossed the line, could this media towards somehow lead to a dismissal making it, my
where she talked about interviewing the late georgia house speaker while holding a ninja turtle popsicle she was given out an ice cream party thrown by the da. so, take the ninja turtle popsicle cold detail out of it. but, why was the da holding an ice cream party for members of the grand jury? is not a problem? totally sharp on your part to zero in on that, that is one thing that should not be happening, again, it is a separate exercise but they should not be holding ice cream parties. i don t think they were, i think it is quite likely that the given day the 23 or maybe even the prosecutor brought the equivalent of donuts and that is the way she put it. that is something you will have to look into, on the other hand i think she blatantly crossed the line many times. but, it is not always because people are not taking account of the unlikely legal implications. it is shortsighted because it is making us neglect the headline. she has much as told us that
will not opened the case, if she stopped talking and no more damaging information is revealed. that is because of the unique nature of the grand jury in georgia. this grand jury near the recommended charges, so i think if there is any taint, it can be cured by the next step, which is a brand new grand jury. we ll look at the charges and make their own charging decisions. these are just recommendations, but i am concerned us about the fact that she s talking about what she said. she also revealed that she obtained a ninja turtle popsicle a ice cream party thrown by the da s office. they should not be socializing together. it suggests for dinner is a shun and a lack of independents with a grand jury that could be problematic. if i am fani willis, i employ my prosecutors to get their ducks in a row before this next round. hugo, i started with barr about what will happen in the court of law. there is also the court of public opinion. trump responded to the redacted report from the grand
designed to protect. the identity of the witnesses, what they said, their credibility, protecting the reputation of people who are under investigation. i think that even if she didn t violate the letter of the rule, she violated the spirit of it. most importantly, she revealed some things that could be perceived as improper. she revealed she obtained a ninja turtle popsicle at an ice cream party thrown by the d.a. s office. if they are socializing, this is a wake-up call to get the prosecutors in line and make sure they are treating grand jurors with appropriate professional arm s length. that s so interesting. phil, listen to what she had to say about lindsey graham. i want to ask you about this. reporter: senator lindsey graham, what was his demeanor like? he was personable. he was forthcoming.