circumstances there should be a very different reaction. and i think in light of this conversation, we should have a very different conversation about president trump and a very different conversation about allegations against him. it s really fascinating because it s almost like you re hearing her make up her mind and rethinking it. she campaigned with bill clinton. so i think we re seeing a big change here, and at the same time you can hear some people crying out for some consistency. that s something you never get at times in politics. and senator gillibrand has been on the forefront of this issue. if you look back to the obama administration and it s on us and she introduced legislation on both of those issues. casa act is one of those bills that hasn t been up for a vote but hopefully one day it will be. senator gillibrand has spoken to survivors for the past four or five years.