as possible and are seeing it on television for the first time, when you see our survivors tell the story and the emotion when they say what they went through, it s just hard to look at the other way. that coupled, certainly, with any time. we were in the middle, when set r kelly aired, we were in the middle of the me too, which was hit in the us and globally and it was the perfect time for our survivors to be heard. to be heard. thank you very much. to be heard. thank you very much- stay to be heard. thank you very much. stay with to be heard. thank you very much. stay with me. - to be heard. thank you very much. stay with me. the i to be heard. thank you very i much. stay with me. the other executive producer of a series is now on the line with us. tamarack, thank you forjoining us. i have been talking to jesse about the genesis of surviving r kelly. tamara. tell me your reaction to the news he was convicted. when i first heard news he was convicted. when i first heard the