that is not due process. that is not justice. which is a different a different a different incident than the one that we re talking about now. which the time s reports on, president trump is saying a little what rob is saying. he weighed in on the lawn. here he is. it s a false accusation. whatever happened with the new york times, i mean i can tell you personally, they never check. they never do. we used to have a thing called fact checking. they don t do fact checking anymore. they used to call and say what about this, what about that? how can they do a thing like that and destroy somebody s life? so, maria, i go es the question i have here is the new york times now says friends tell them as a woman who was allegedly involved to a man that was there, she does not recall it. which it does give you pause. you know, of course, trump is running with this. did the new york times help trump here?
thing up with. so what are we going to do? funding yes. and it s all the stuff. thinking about that. all the stuff because you never know where he s going to. maybe he gets hit by. correct. i m all over that. i spoke to allen about it. when it comes time for the financing. what financing? we ll have to pay cash? no, no, no, no. check? the audio given to cnn by lanny davis. nbc news has authenticated the recording with davis but we don t know if the original recording has been edited at all. as we ve reported both sides dispute what s on the tape you just heard. cohen s attorney says trump brought up by paying in cash. president trump s attorney rudy giuliani flatly says the president can be heard saying don t pay with cash. according to president lawyers, the payment was never made. earlier today trump refused to answer questions about the
get one, if he angers him enough he won t get one. they can go ahead and prosecute him and deal with him down the road. that s kind of what he s looking at if he doesn t babe in a smarter way. as far as the tape goes, whether it s cash or check doesn t make a difference. the point is the president lied about this, he was involved in the discussions. he knew what they were doing and there s a real threat here for conspiracy to violate campaign finance laws to the president of the united states. phil rucker in your piece you contributed to tonight, you remind us, this is at root very deeply personal for president. it is for the president and for michael cohen. cohen has worked for the president for the better part of a decade. and was his loyal attorney and fixer. and was sort of an eager supply can t. he wanted to please the boss. he wanted to execute whatever trump wanted him to do, including arrange this payment to ensure the silence of a
media and its further said about cohen he just would roll on his phone during conversations kind of in lieu of note taking and as a matter, of course? that s right. that s what lanny davis told us that is cohen had a practice of recording conversations instead of taking notes. it sounds odd for a lawyer to do that but he did. and he did it on his iphone, he would keep hold of the audio files and lanny davis said he didn t intend to do anything with those audio recordings other than to keep them as his own personal record. that was the way he chose to keep records working at donald trump s personal tosh. matt, i d like to play for you rudolph giuliani with sean hannity tonight because rudy hears the tape and views the transcript a different way. he s been talking about his experience listening to mobsters on tape and while this conversation likely taped in trump tower and not the ravenite social club is much clearer than
so matt, you were last on this broadcast friday night when a reporter was proffering thor who for the first time many of us were going after the story wrong and the airing of the tape was a giuliani method of lessening cohen s value. in fact, in the pies you you contributed to in the times to know, i m looking at this giuliani quote about lanny davis. he s beak destroying his client as a witness because he isn t a criminal lawyer. he s playing it like a shill as opposed to a lawyer. his whole theory you bring it all out, that s great. now the guy is ruined as a witness. what prosecutor is going to use him? you see where i m going, it s diminishing of cohen s potential value as a flip. yeah, and it s interesting because to phil s point about how michael cohen feels you know, out in the wilderness, cohen s lawyers actually