public how much the public how much evidence investigators had that he was engaged in criminal obstruction, there are people that, again, i m thinking of now who are glad to see not relishing, not smacking their lips but glad to see there are in their view consequences for actions finally. yeah, i talked to a couple, and i don t have the depth or breadth of relationships you do, carol, but it s exactly as you describe, not a gleeful feeling but a real worry he s still the front-runner to one of these two existing parties and this real belief that the country couldn t handle another round of this. carol leonnig, thank you so much for being part of our coverage on this historic day. everyone else sticks around a little bit longer. when we come black we ll have more reporting what comes next in fani willis sprawling rico case against the ex-president and his allies. plus nearly every republican candidate on the stage last night for the first debate of
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we ll be watching that. lisa, i understand even since we ve been on the air we had some breaking news about this breaking topic of an october 23rd trial for attorney kenneth chesebro. what are you learning? reporter: we re learning that judge scott mcafee who is new to the bench and his relatively young lawyer has already taken his first act in this case, ordering ken chesebro will get the october 23rd speedy trial he has demanded. in the case management order, it s a 1-page order that judge mcafae has set down today, he s also making it clear it only applies to ken chesebro. so he s effectively gotten the trial date he wanted but has served his case at least right now from all the 18 other codefendants that stand with him in this indictment. gwen, is this now the final word? is this now for d.a. willis to go ahead and try mr. chesebro on
i can t speculate or tell. you know, there could be a lot of things going on here. there s one element of chesebro s demand for a speedy trial that could be helpful to the other defendants in that they would essentially get a preview of the case, if that is how this happens, if this is how it goes down. it would also be pretty challenging as gwen points out to describe a broad conspiracy with basically a relatively small bit player when you think about the overarching effort that fani willis alleges in her 100-plus overt acts. you know, fred, i want to pick up on something carol said about what is devastating about today. i don t disagree, but i think what is devastating about the mug shot isn t the image, it s the acts. and it s so many acts that led to this one mug shot. it s the six acts of alleged
we are watching district attorney fani s through her filings, through her efforts and the picture is consistent with the one you ve painted for us over the last many months direct, responsive, and pretty steely. i don t think i m playing too much into what i m seeing. her response to chesebro was quick, it was decisive. i believe it was october 23rd. i misspoke when i said october 25th. let me ask you what are the chances that anyone goes on trial on october 23rd? is there ever a case where some people are separated out from the criminal enterprise? well, that s always possible, but i think it s important to note that d.a. willis was acting in response to response what georgia law says. anytime a defendant files a motion for speedy trial he or she must be tried either within the term the motion is file or