ukrainian seeking refugees katya adler. without asking them to apply for asylum. adler. without asking them to apply forasylum. i adler. without asking them to apply for asylum. i should say european interior ministers. what do you make of that? in the context, like britain has had a certain amount of reluctance to embrace refugees, seeking to escape war zones, is that a significant move? a significant move? yes, very significant- a significant move? yes, very significant. i a significant move? yes, very significant. i think a significant move? yes, very significant. i think it - a significant move? yes, very significant. i think it reflects i a significant move? yes, very i significant. i think it reflects the view of the united nations a day or two ago. you might see as many as 5 million people trying to escape from ukraine. that would be more than 10% of the population. and this isn t somewhere where you can argue, well, we can stop them in turkey or in jordan, ukraine is r