on the other side of the fence before customs and border protection is able to pick them up and process them. by law, customs and border protection should be doing it immediately. the problem is they are just as overwhelmed as everybody. leading off our discussion now is former democratic senator heidi hide camp and joining us joy reed and host of a.m. joy and nbc news correspondent cal perry is joining us from the southern border tonight and senator hyde cam senator hide camp, you were working when it was unimaginable 12 republicans would stand up and vote against this president of the united states. you say it s against the president. i like to put it this way, it s for the constitution. it s for article one powers, which is absolutely critical and many of the people who voted that way were aproperpropriator because if you crack this egg,