the charges here are of the utmost gravity. it s just one, just one trump-related case before the supreme court right now. we re going to start with cnn legal analyst kari cordero and cnn supreme court analyst joan bis biscoupic. what do you make of this request from jack smith? he wants to reiterate as strongly as possible as the justices are considering it at this very moment the importance of the case, why delay would hurt the situation, hurt the public interest. not so much hurt the government s case as hurt the public s interest. he says nothing short of democracy is at stake. he really uses the fact that we re dealing with a former president here. he wants to say why donald trump is not like any other defendant, why he needs to jump over an appellate court at this point because donald trump should have to account for his actions back in 2020. he doesn t mention 2024 s election at all. he wants to he s talking about the imperative of being able to hold him accountab
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and take it is wrong. if the senate doesn t convict him, so be it. the senate members will have to live with the history and the mark that it will put on them. okay. so they re arguing, though, at the white house that he has that mcgahn has constitutional immunity. the legal opinion from the justice department says, in part, that congress may not constitutionally compel the president s senior advisers to testify about their official duties. what do you say to that, representative? well, first of all, you can t believe anything out of the justice department anymore. barr is a hired gun. he s not an attorney general. and he lied to the congress. and he s done whatever trump wanted him to do, talking about collusion when a lawyer would talk about conspiracy. and he talked about it over and over. he s tried to step on the mueller report and trash it and destroy it, hurt the public s opinion about it so it didn t have the effect it should have had. if you read the mueller report,
okay. so they re arguing, though, at the white house that he has that mcgahn has constitutional immunity. the legal opinion from the justice department says, in part, that congress may not constitutionally compel the president s senior advisers to testify about their official duties. what do you say to that, representative? well, first of all, you can t believe anything out of the justice department anymore. barr is a hired gun. he s not an attorney general. and he lied to the congress. and he s done whatever trump wanted him to do, talking about collusion when a lawyer would talk about conspiracy. and he talked about it over and over. he s tried to step on the mueller report and trash it and destroy it, hurt the public s opinion about it so it didn t have the effect it should have had. if you read the mueller report, which i have, it basically is a road map to impeachment and says the man obstructed justice and that mueller couldn t say that