and let s be blunt, as disgusting is donald trump? well, unfortunately it s the tribalism in our politics and it s actually deeper than our politics mehdi. this is an aspect of human nature as one of our darkest sides which is for all of human existence we ve survived by being in tribes. and increasingly our political tribes and those that we associate with our survival. we have seen this inclination among everyday people to do almost anything to avoid getting booted out of their tribe even if the travel leader starts to defy the underlying norms. i ve certainly seen that with people who used to be mentors and friends in the republican party who behind the scenes we talk about standing up to donald trump, but when push came to shove in public they would not do it because they feared getting booted out of the tribe more than even feared death. that s something that my friend adam kinzinger shared with me and i share this in the book, that they fear getting booted out of the drive more
presidential nominee. let s bring in my panel of experts. glenn kirschner, msnbc legal analyst and former prosecutor and judge the doors claudell, the author of the book huron up my life on the bench. what works what s broken and how to change it. thank you both for coming back on the show. dutch cordell, the last time we spoke, you are on my peacock show talking about judge cannon s interesting role at the the conflicts of interest. she is now split the difference on timing and scheduling this trial later than the december date that the team wanted. not to be and definite postponement that trump wanted. that our federal state for trump or for smith? preliminarily, the argument that trump made that it should be postponed because he s going to be really busy running for president the implication was that if he were to be elected he would then would not be busy. he would deal with all the litigation. it is absurd.