studio audience in miami you can tune in at 8 pm eastern, right here on msnbc. alex wagner tonight starts right now. good evening, alex are you concerned tha desantis just hard that is like, shut it down no entry maybe if he shows that we can do a live interview. i would love that. he s a big fan of the show i m sure longtime watcher an first-time guest that sounds great. i ll be watching thank you to you at home for joining us this hour this was the line to get int the delaware courthouse wher fox news was set to go on tria this morning the company was accused of defamation by the dominion voting systems a corporation even the sheer number of lawyers showing up for thi trial today was impressive the fox and dominion side look like they had enough attorneys to form a soccer team. the soccer team in suits buying the building, the court erected this mysterious canopy walkway thing presumably for allowing jurors an high-profile witnesses to ente and exit the courtroom with
who represents new york in which i do live that is true that is allen on this tuesday night. i want to tell you something, this friday we re sell braying ten years in front of a live studio audience in miami, so you can tune in at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here onn msnbc alex wagner tonight begins rote now. are you concerned governor desantis shows up and says shut it down. he s a big fan of the show right now. so if he would love to come and talk long time watcher, first time guest. that sounds great, buddy i ll be watching thanks to you at home for joining us this hour this was the line to get into the delaware courthouse where fox news was set to go on trial this morning the company was accused of defamation by the dominion voting systems corporation even the sheer number of lawyers showing up for this trial today was impressive both the fox side and dominion side looked like they had enough attorneys to form a soccer team. behind the court they erected this mysterious
through and through. everybody tells me that he s a winner he. lost in the midterms well, that s something that they could probably work around you see that hesitation. they open up the door for th sayings. we need humiliation rent donal trump. it s not going to be a revelation of what happened to his past we already does plenty o things that could be a humiliation what is humiliating is a bunch of people with spines that used t be with you who say to, much bro, we re moving on t something else that could change th temperature. i would have to be a lot of people it have to be a lot of peopl a. groundswell of conservatives coming up and saying, you re a loser. if those guys that claim patriotism and have those flag pins, if they look themselve in the mirror, look to tha flag pen, and was like, i care about this country grow a spine tell, this man, what is happening, and maybe people will listen to you. do you think i wonder if the loser part of, it the humiliation part of i actual
the loser part of it, the humiliation part of it actually cuts to the core of the psyche around the folks who want to believe in trump, at one point listened to fox news, that central promise of whether that kind of ideology and media diet is the belief it offers you a way to feel good about yourself and that it makes you feel bigger and better than anyone else and the minute you are not surrounded by winners, digesting the problem of another win, the minute you start tuning it out 100%. i ve talked to people in rallies wearing capes. who among us, jordan? we should be wearing capes. it feels so good to wear a cape and i get that people identify with him, identify with the maga movement. you can have a conversation with
oprah: mm-hmm. was that humbling for you? it was humbling. oprah: mm-hmm. ws it humiliating for you? yes, but that s my fault, and, you know, i didn t think about the humiliation part. i thought about, this is what i have to do for what i ve done. oprah: mm-hmm. did you think every day going to the community service, i m gonna work this to the best of my ability, and so every day, you re planning what you re gonna wear? > no. no. i m in fashion. i like clothes. i m gonna wear them, what i have, so i m not gonna dress down to, like, i m a poor little, humble thing that s going off to community oprah: to scrub floors, to scrub floors. yeah. yeah. i mean, i m just gonna dress how i dress. oprah: we ll be right back. more with naomi campbell in a moment. coming up. i showed up to do a job and basically collapsed. oprah: the cocaine addiction that nearly destroyed naomi, and naomi breaks down. let s get a kleenex. let s take a little break. closed captioningthe make