because it s still illegal, charles. we don t know what benefit this drug has. lancet, britain s medical journal called it the aspirin of the 21st century. that s not limited. the reason that this hasn t been explored is because drug companies can t make money off it. do you buy that? cannibis is already entering into colorado the plant. tobacco is a plant. let s not forget that. tobacco is a plant. that was a serious problem. the big point you do want to get illegal element out of the trade. listen. here s the big problem you guys are missing it. people still have a moral model as it pertains to the human relationship to substances. it has nothing to do with morality. it s a by biological event. it makes them behave in immoral ways, some people who use the drugs, they want to make it a moral issue.
armchair prognostication, but that s what we specialize in here. how do you think this plays out for the republicans? jonathan chait makes the point this glee around the sequester and supposed win on this is going to be they are going to change their tune a few months down the road when the cuts actually start to set in. two points. to your first question, this sort of apocalypse now strategy the administration was pursuing on sequester was not successful. people didn t see anything happen so terrible when the sequester began. they ve abandoned that. that s a good thing. to joy s point, i couldn t disagree more on that. i think there s every reason if you are negotiating with people across the table, regardless of your ideological differences, to get to know them, what motivates them, have some kind of human relationship that s beyond just what you read about them in the newspaper or what you know about them from what somebody tells you in a briefing paper. i give the president a l
moment ago in a foreign affairs publication here, they talked about a strained relationship, strained over the keystone pipeline project, strained over problems between the two countries over trade. is there anything to that? well, there is always bumps in the road in any relationship, any human relationship, but we are very happy with the relationship we have with the united states. we have deep ties. our border and our relationship are the most open and intimate arguably in history, and as we discuss issues we find solutions coming forward, particularly on the perimeter, arrangements that we are entering into with the united states, and we believe that projects between our new countries will continue to be discussed. if there is a good case for them, if jobs are created we believe they will go forward, and we hope that cooperation will continue. rick: i want to ask you about global affairs outside of north
but politics. anarchy in cleveland. new information today on the five men plotting to blow up a bridge. reports this morning they were all tied to the occupy movement. payback. walmart the megastore digging deep and cutting a check for almost 4,000 employees. a probe finding the company violated overtime laws cheating workers out of thousands of dollars. and searching for maddie. the parents of missing madeleine mccann going public this morning saying the little girl s brother and sister now want to join the search. the family holding out hope that their little madeleine is still alive. newsroom starts right now. after an emotional phone call with secretary of state hillary clinton, chinese human rights activist chen guangcheng is in a beijing hospital this morning and china is not happy. in fact, china is demanning apology from united states. we did manage to get this photo of chen a few hours ago. that means he was indeed holdup in the u.s. embassy and u.s. offici
now perverse as the rapport will be by definition when you have an interrogator and a detainee, it s a hugely unbalanced relationship. nonetheless, it s a human relationship. and i concluded at the as the process went on for me, at the same place that the fbi has been from the beginning. they ve been quite consistent, and i think honorably so and directly so to state that the way you interrogate someone and obtain information is by establishing a rapport and you can try to manipulate someone but you don t put them under extreme physical, mental stress. so this country in your opinion, was, obviously, wrong if and when it waterboarded those who were in captivity. you question the nature of its validity and just how much information we got. what else is in your book coming up that you d like to preview? well, gosh, on the enhanced interrogation techniques issue, the agency was very careful to seek guidance, legal and policy, of course, from higher ups.