for amid already high tensions in the white house, particularly between the offices of the chief of staff and the white house counsel following the release of that call summary the times reports, quote, the lawyer s inquiry centers on why one of their colleagues, deputy white house counsel john eisenberg placed a rough transcript of the call in a computer system typically reserved for the country s most closely guarded secrets. we are waiting for peter baker from the new york times to join us. but let me start with you, frank figliuzzi. why would an internal investigation focus on the white house lawyer who put this rough transcript in a server saved for code word intel and who it s also been reported that he took the meeting when the whistle-blower first approached her about his concerns. i think we would ask this riddle. when does an investigation
reagan-gorbachev summits, the devil is in the details. they can come away saying that i like that guy and we are not throwing verbal missiles at each other but in the end, the devil is in the details. i would think the u.s. is going to want to declaration from north korea, what s in your arsenal? how many bombs? where are they? how many long-range and medium-range missiles do you have? and then there s going to have to be some kind of a verification procedure. before you begin to remove them, you ve got to know what is there. they are going to want a declaration and they re going to want to check the declaration and ensure because i m sure we have some human intel on the ground, well, it s interesting. you said you have missiles here and you allow us to check it but can you let us check the other place? we never got anything close to that ie iran nuclear deal. we are going to need, i think president trump is that we are
wait wait wait. okay. so, i think that the mueller investigation is serious and getting more serious. the president is deciding to talk with bob mueller. against that back drop the president and his supporters are tree trying to create a alternative narrative with no evidence. no evidence? there was no spy looking, spying on the trump campaign. that is not true. why not? there is no evidence to support. that. talking to three to four trump campaign officials before the counter intelligence operation was open, you don t think that s a spy in the campaign. i do not. that s not what the intel question community would call it either. discredit bob mueller. comey said it was human intel question or something like that. that s like calling a intern a
speaking about how this type of terror attack can be prevented here in our homeland. as investors learned, spain was under a terror threat long before the attacks, robin sincox can, she joins us or he joins us, sorry about that. kind of intelligence that we need requires putting people in harm s way who can gather that kind of intel, because what we re lacking now is human intel. we can get all the chatter in the world, but what we ve seen is that isis has gone kind of underground, and we no longer hear those common forms of chatter that we used to hear from the likes of al-qaeda. so how does our strategy change. well, i think certainly human intelligence is shul vital in trying to absolutely vital in trying to stop these kinds of attacks like we saw in barcelona. but part of the problem is scale. if you use a country like the u.k., for example, where there
end of the day, there s not such a thing as a no-go zone. the reality is the authorities can get in there and do. the question is more of sourcing and trust. what i mean by that is you have decent human intel sources in the communities. you have the level of communication that you re able to build up so if something does happen or someone starts to turn towards the dark side, that mother or brother or indivial will pick up the phone and call the authorities. they can continue to it is hard to build up a level of communication. operation i m not saying this because i want to be touchy feely, from an operational perspective, that s what you need. in the u.s., the fbi and other authorities spend a great deal of time trying to build relations and trust within the muslim community. in part because you need the ability, you need to pick up the phone and the only way you