specializing in human computer interface design and product development for mobile platforms and robotics systems. good to see you both. you guys are like on opposite ends of the spectrum of what you do. but somehow we get along. at your core you both built these small businesses and have grown them. that s what we re here to pick your brain about. let s get to our first question, it s about maintaining company culture. i m concerned about when s the best time to start building out the team, and adding people to the board of directors. really want to make sure that i m not going to affect the corporate culture in a negative way. great question for both of you. because you started small. you grew so quickly so how did you keep your focus? a big part of our culture is that we ve been successful. right. and that s come through hard work and also getting the right people in the right places, and so this question s kind of an interesting one because it feels like kind of putti