as he s always said, labour say he won t commit to anything that cannot be funded in future. so that s, i guess, a sort of clarification from labour there just to kind of calm anyone who might have heard that and had any concerns. of course, there is another huge political race going on over the atlantic and last night we saw the first tv debate between joe atlantic and last night we saw the first tv debate betweenjoe biden and donald trump. let s get some more on that, i am joined by democratic strategist and former presidential campaign strategist to the republican party. thank you both very much for being here on bbc news. laura, ifi very much for being here on bbc news. laura, if i can start with you, we have seen a lot of reaction to joe you, we have seen a lot of reaction tojoe biden s performance described by some as panic. what would you say, what is your response to what you have seen? i say, what is your response to what you have seen? you have seen? i would call i
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