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guest: i think the obama administration has made a shift from the bush administration and recognizing there is an important role for government. but the question is how do you what that role is. how big a role ought to be. they all agree they re ought to be able, even the financial sector agree they re ought to be the role bailing them out giving them a lot of money so everybody agrees the government should do something if we are going to give the bank s money. but some of us think it should have a broad role and we talked in this conversation a lot about the role in preventing disasters. if you re going to have to build big hospitals, let s have some preventive care so not so many people go to the hospital. .. it s a good theory, reason why that s the case. but the fact is that you can t have the advances in tech knowledge he if you don t have the advances in science on which they rest. director for the innovations in there for the growth and unemployment. guest: i ll

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