not having the committees. jesse: did they have hearings or committees when you guys came with your plans? dana: kimberly, you remember that whole summer of 2009. kimberly: what a great summer. dana: there was a ton of debate. we ve been having this debate. the fixes are not as hard to debate. there is a big rose garden ceremony with all the house members and he said it s a beautiful bill. behind closed doors he says it s too mean, i want you to add more heart. i think that s what you re going to see tomorrow. kimberly: i think you re absolutely right. he just said it. because the most effective impactful moment of the night. put some more money into it. he wanted them to have some better benefits. when people come and say kimberly, what s going to happen, i m so worried. why are you so worried? they are only trying to improve on obamacare. they are just trying to make it better. not worse. they are trying to expand on it.
bill? anthem pulling out of 2 additional states, that s the lead up of this bill. greg: i m having a deja vu. president obama was complaining about the same thing, wasn t he? dana: yeah, because no republicans voted for him. greg: what donald trump is trying to do, whether it s dealing with the paris accord or obamacare, he lists these things as products. he looks at countries as products. how can we make it better? he looks at obamacare like the paris accord. it s a lousy product. i will try to fix it. he s saying okay, i am working on it. let me work on it. think about this this did not happen with obamacare. talk about dead of night. they hammered it through. it was built on a pyramid of lies. you re going to keep your docto
doctor. he does nothing in secret. we know exactly what he s doing. this is the opposite of how obamacare was rolled out. it s messy. it s going to take time. it might be a little clumsy but that s because they are human beings and we are watching it. juan: it s been totally in secret. jesse: juan, you have no credibility on health care. it bombed. we have no credibility. juan: hold on. i have a lot of credibility. greg: we saw it go down in flames, correct? juan: we saw what go down in flames? greg: no one would agree on it. juan: the house plan across all americans, but by 8% now you have them in the senate not having open negotiations, not having hearings.
folks. we have a very slim 52-48. that means we basically can t lose anybody. i hope. it can t guarantee anything but i hope we are going to surprise you with a really good plan. i ve been talking about a plan with hard. i said, add some money to it. a plan with hard. but obamacare is dead. dana: that was the most effective part of the speech. driving the policy. tomorrow, juan, republicans on the senate side will release the bill. it will be there for all to see. they do plan to have a vote pretty quickly by next week. what do you think of that? juan: i am all anxious to see what s in it. basically what we have seen tonight in terms of the early release, they plan to have a slower decline in terms of federal experiences insurancese money into subsidies to help people who are poor, dealing with the high cost of premiums.
they are saying president trump has not produced health care. i ve been here for five months. if you remember during the clinton period, they worked for years and years and never got health care. president obama, his whole administration pushing, pushing for obamacare, which has now failed. obamacare is a disaster. it s over. if we went and got the single greatest health care plan the history of the world, we would not get one democrat vote. they are obstructionists. if we came to you and said here s your plan, is the greatest plan history. and you can play nothing, they would vote against it,